David D. Friedman on Government Education

David Director Friedman (born February 12, 1945) is the son of economists Milton and Rose Friedman. He holds a Ph.D. in Physics from the University of Chicago, although he is mostly known for his work in political theory and economics. He became a leading figure in the anarcho-capitalist community with the publication of his book The Machinery of Freedom (1973). He is currently a professor of law at Santa Clara University.
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Excerpt from "Free to Choose", Vol. 4 - The Failure of Socialism (1990 series)

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[1888junkteam]

excellent work!

[wikichris]

Check out his blog. It's very good. One of the best on the internet I would say. Lots of ideas and debate.

[PrimateDynasty]

lmao I totally agree

[JohnColt]

@Slimdawgc Yes, you are right.

[Slimdawgc]

@JohnColt Anarchism does not necessarily mean revolution. It means you devolve decision-making from the top to the bottom. That can occur through revolution, but it doesn't have to - indeed I think anarchism is probably more sustainable when it evolves gradually. (P.S. Anarchism usually does NOT endorse violence)

[JohnColt]

@Slimdawgc I don't know much about anarchy's history, but presumably you are referring to instances of revolution. Friedman addresses this issue in chapter 37 of the same book. He ends with a Yeats poem:

Hurrah for revolution and more cannon-shot!

A beggar upon horseback lashes a beggar on foot.

Hurrah for revolution and cannon come again!

The beggars have changed places, but the lash goes on.

[Slimdawgc]

@JohnColt I can dig that, though the problem is that nobody knows what an anarchist system would look like. Ideally, I'd like to see a healthy mix of the free market and collectivization. Yet that's up to people to decide - I just hope they learn from the anarchist experiments of the past.

[JohnColt]

@Slimdawgc Sorry to butt into an old discussion, but I thought you might be interested to know that D Friedman, in his book The Machinery of Freedom, points out that in a totally free anarchist society, there is nothing to stop willing individuals from setting up the kind of commonly managed systems you mention. He doesn't encourage it though. Friedman's states that he would like to live in a society of self-employed individuals - freelancers collaborating on whatever projects they chose.

[phrimburger]

badass

[Slimdawgc]

There are generally four types of property rights systems: government controlled, private property, commonly managed, and open access. "Commonly managed" means a community shares the land in common, with the benefit stream accruing to members - even though this ostensibly would lead to the so-called tragedy of the commons.

Like you said, we cannot effectively debate on such a small forum - your points aren't convincing, and neither are mine. Send me a message, and we'll talk more.

[selfrealizedexile]

"Commonly managed property"

Wth does that even mean?

[Slimdawgc]

Community-based government IS what most anarchists support; I think you've been mislead.

Elinor Ostrom defied the traditional view that the only way to deal with open-access resources is to either give it to government, or hand it over to private companies/individuals, demonstrating that commonly managed property can, under certain conditions, yield the optimal allocation.

For examples of anarchism in practice, check out the Zapatistas in Mexico, or the Spanish Civil War.