Is Jesus the Jewish Messiah? (2 of 2) Debate - Dr. Michael Brown vs Shmuley Boteach

This is the long-awaited second clip of a two-part heated debate Lee Strobel hosted between Dr. Michael Brown and Rabbi Shmuley Boteach ("Shalom in the Home"). The first part has already been viewed by over 300,000 people!

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[CarmineFragione]

@zatoichiable When the French turned against the Jews and burned the Talmuds and forced the Jews to leave, they had confused the Identity of the Jewish People, with the Muslims who under a bad Caliph had invaded Jerusalem and destroyed many Christian Churches and killed many Pilgrims. So to understand the Crusades is to see a folly of ignorance thrown at the shock trauma ,where the French thought the Jews were the Muslims. The Europeans were more "Gothic" then Christian or Catholic

[CarmineFragione]

@zatoichiable When you inferred the crimes against Humanity by Popes, that is a personal judgment on the soul of the individual. When the Catholic Church was at war with Islam which was invading Catholic Europe, the hysteria against the Jews was greatly a product of Fear and Ignorance, over who was the Enemy or what was the Enemy. But to take the Inquisition away from the backdrop of War between Christians and Islam, is to infer Catholics had it in for Jews, which is false propaganda.

[CarmineFragione]

Both the Catholics and the Rabbis have always known, give them the first seven years of a child's life, and they will indoctrinate them in Moral Certainty and Manners of Forgiveness based on Repentance. Jesus said to the people, "as soon as you have repented, you are forgiven" But to encourage Faith , in a world full of confusion, takes allot of substantial story telling about Morality, a story about Morality means the story teaches Truth even while you are hearing the story told

[CarmineFragione]

@zatoichiable as far as judging the whole world, I suppose the Pharisees saw their place of power was to be "Satans" Hebrew for "Accusers of the Brethren under the Law" So they went about accusing violators and taking power to punish. The Jews are not given of God to Judge the World, God is the Judge, only God knows the motives of a man's mind, if he is Insane or Sane. God did use the Jews to Judge the World, but they are not the judges on behalf of God, God is on behalf of the Jews

[CarmineFragione]

@zatoichiable So the Doctrine of Christ is about taking Refuge in God, as one realizes critical errors in judgment and has yet the Natural Heart of flesh , which needs yet a proxy to Faith, to accept a teaching that the Teacher, who is Father like to the Student, not only teaches but SAVES, by Ransoming the Student out of trouble, which is the One Law given of Moses for the Refuge , Nu 35-25-32 where the guilty go to safety if repentant and when Messiah dies, all Captives are released.

[CarmineFragione]

@zatoichiable The True Essence and Meaning of the Teaching of Christ, is Simplicity. It is the Child who can understand by simple thoughts, what it means to live and love and treat one another as family and not conspire to hate or destroy. What a Child can know, who never read the Bible, God then Claims to have Imputed by Natural Law the Spirit of Love into the Child, which the Torah by many words and mysteries is attempting to convince the Learned and Wise to repent and believe in God.

[CarmineFragione]

Saint Paul the Apostle to the Gentiles, taught us that God's Written Torah Law, is not in violation of Natural Law, and the Gentiles do not need to be Jewish to know Good and Evil and the meaning of Repentance from a prior fault. It is a mistake to think Christians have no Law, they have a Law given by Jesus, which is a principle of the Whole Law, "To Love One Another as God has shown His Love for us, by Jesus Christ" There is a Letter of the Law and the Spirit of the Law, We obey the Spirit

[CarmineFragione]

@zatoichiable Repentance is not a matter of Law but Spirit, A Beast of Prey never repents even when you attempt to claim the behavior transgresses the Law. You can only try to kill the Beast. Law Keepers who go bad, use the Law as a Sorcerer to afflict innocent people of accusations by the Law, knowing full well they are manipulating the Law to their profit , for power or wealth. So the Law does not make a man Righteous, only God's Holy Spirit can make a man Righteous in God's eyes.

[CarmineFragione]

@zatoichiable Many writers spoke of personal knowledge of Adolf Hitler, that he hated God and used Religion as a method of taking over the minds of the people into total paranoia. When good men go bad, they repent and take Refuge in God who can punish and pardon , but Hitler was no Catholic, not only six million Jews but also five million Polish Catholics he murdered , trying to get the world over in his own name, making himself the god of a new age. REPENT, true Evil knows no Repentance

[zatoichiable]

@zatoichiable Sorry. I am just curious. How did you know that Hitler was not a Christian when you said faith is a matter of the heart. Did any one saw whats inside the heart of Hitler? He goes to church he was blessed by the pope, Or did you based your judgement on his action? So would you also agree the pope of the past were not christians because of their crime againsts humanity? Does this mean you agree that you need actions to reveal the true intentions of your sincerity?