terence mckenna - meditation vs hallucinogens

terence mckenna - meditation vs hallucinogens

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[avisceralblue]

I honestly believe that Hallucinogens are tools for learning things about the spiritual universe. Like how a microscope or a telescope is used to learn things about the physical universe. Hallucinogens are merely the other side of the coin.

Meditation, however can bring about peace and serenity similar to a trip without the organic damage or tolerance.

I believe that hallucinogens should be used sparingly as tools alone, not crutches for daily existence.

Meditation is a lot cheaper too.

[SilentBud420]

@klindred the guy invented acid lived to be over 100 and did acid all the time...

[awildway]

Tastey pen Terence?

[LordEmilous]

@jas7fc very nicely said, you just took the words out of my mouth.

Hallucinogens, in my opinion, open a window to altered states of consciousness, through meditation, you open the door and go through.

Hallucinogens are just a shortcut to what meditation provides, you can learn a lot from hallucinogens, but with meditation, you'll stay there and not loose your grip on what you have learned.

[LordEmilous]

@SilentBud420 It's not true that hi did acid all the time lol, where did you get that information ?

[BeLikeWater1000]

@Globox822 thats not cool this guy spread nutn but love

[jas7fc]

the only difference is meditation doesnt cause you too hallucinate and doesnt phsyically enhance the senses. besides that the heightened awareness, feelings of lightness and spaciousness, ego death, insight and inner peace are the same as a trip. and thats really the good stuff about the trip anyways. not that i dont enjoy some nuts ass visuals though lol

plus meditation is permanant..no coming down.

[pagayoyo9]

:57, "it's only my opinion." This is someone I would have liked to have met.

[Globox822]

Listen to Osho then listen to this hobo

[psychomystic21]

@TheOriginalEntz Are you referring to Alan Watts? Because he did do psychedelics. In fact, he wrote a book about the experience. Look up "Alan Watts psychedelics" and you will find out all about it. Watts attitude was simply one of caution. I think he had a healthy attitude towards it. :)

[ohmgrown1991]

@avisceralblue Organic damage? Surely you aren't claiming that LSD, mescaline, psilocbyin, DMT or any classic Psychedelic which Terence was a proponent of was physically damaging.... If you are making such a claim, the burden of proof is on you. What are you talking about cost? Grow mushrooms for free... The point is, they aren't substitutions.... they are totally different things. Sex is great but it doesn't replace psychedelics. Same with meditation. Same with music. etc. etc.

[penkul]

unfortunately terrence seems to have bypassed the rigors of spiritual training in preference of the psychedelic path. I ask, what becomes of the psychonaught when the supply dries up? Insight into the nature of reality can come through the psychedelic experience by providing a diverse array of perspectives. the path of spiritual practice ideally takes one to the origin of all realities in order that one is free to choose and master the totality from the foundation of truth. -undoing-