Margaret Thatcher and Nancy Pelosi

Both Margaret Thatcher upon becoming Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Nancy Pelosi on become Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives (the first female occupants of their respective offices) quoted the Peace Prayer of St. Francis of Assisi.

The prayer in full is:

"Lord, make me an channel of your peace.

Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is discord, unity;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is error, truth;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is sadness, joy;
where there is darkness, light.

O Lord, grant that I may not so much seek happiness for myself,
to be consoled as to console,
to be loved as to love,
to be understood as to understand.

For it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life."

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[darioso5]

Murderer of 900 Argentinian boys.

[Medeasbiggestfan]

@darioso5 A little over 600 Argentines died in the Falklands war. Also, she didn't start the war and a British victory did result in the islands being liberated from military occupation.

I am hardly Thatcher's biggest fan, but on the Falklands, you can't really criticise her.

[ttiiyy]

@Medeasbiggestfan The islands were being liberated from military occupation????

[Medeasbiggestfan]

@ttiiyy

That's right. In 1982, the islanders were invaded and occupied by the Argentine Military Junta. The British liberated them.

[ttiiyy]

@Medeasbiggestfan So are the islands now ruled by Britain? Or Argentina? Or neither? I know the majority of the population are neither British or Spanish. Do they have a chance of building an independent country?

Also, what do you mean by "liberated" in this context? Did the locals hate Argentina more than Britain?

[Medeasbiggestfan]

@ttiiyy

The islanders are self-governing, but they're dependent on the UK. This means they have their own government, legislature and constitution, but they are all British citizens and the UK speaks for them on foreign policy.

Under their constitution, they have a right to independence if a majority of the islanders vote for it. But for now, most of the islanders want to remain British.

The islanders refer to the British retaking of the islands in 1982 as their 'liberation'.

[Reazzurro90]

This is disgustingly offensive. How dare anyone compare that hag Nancy Pelosi to the Iron Lady?

[eldorama]

Comparing Pelosi to Thatcher is like comparing water to oil. There is no comparison. Thatcher had substance that made a real different not only in her country but the world. Pelosi has nothing more than windy rhetoric. It was actually the hatred of Bush that elevated her to speaker of the house. Ironic considering her speech.

[ameroffsky]

@hecdc

LOL and Pelosi doesn't?

It's very well known that the prayer was first coined by St. Francis of Assisi, something that MT cited before making the statements (look at a full length video).

And Catholic or Protestant is a bit of a red herring, really, as Pelosi and MT are both Christians.

[TheJedikai]

@Reazzurro90 I like that! lol

[TheJedikai]

how could once possibly put the two together?

it's appalling and offending.

what's even funnier is pelosi is at the front lines of "separation of church and state". It's okay for her but not others.

[hecdc]

To be fair, Thatcher stole the statements she just uttered from a well-known Catholic prayer first uttered by Saint Francis of Assisi. Thatchie just mixed up the terms.

Pelosi is Catholic, and what she uttered refers back to the actual Prayer of St. Francis, thatchie just wants to look good.

[ameroffsky]

And notice how MT mentioned only the "let me" statements, while Pelosi said the prayer from the beginning, starting with the word Lord; this is because religion is much more relevant in the US, whereas Britain is a very secular society.

[ameroffsky]

Nancy Pelosi is a strong woman and I sort of like her, but she is no comparison to Margaret Thatcher; and I have a strong feeling she used the same quote from St. Francis of Assissi in order to create a sort of association with MT. In her image that is.

[Reazzurro90]

@darioso5

Next time don't invade another country's territory. You have no one to blame but yourselves.

[Reazzurro90]

@IlRezzonico

Yeah but she imitates the Iron Lady the way an ape imitates a human.

[IlRezzonico]

@Reazzurro90 Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :0)