You don't have to be famous to have a good ear. Just do more transcribing/listening and you'll get better at hearing changes. I've been in situations where I've had to learn a tune on the spot that nobody has a chart for, and it's not that hard because I've worked on my ear. You just have to have a good ear and know chord relationships, what they sound like, how they function, etc. In the end having a good ear is what spontaneous composition (improvisation) comes down to.
@Parvenu333 OH yea, I forgot. Also, it depends on the type of jazz bassist whether they are using the chord progressions or not. If you are a super amazing jazz bassist who is a legend around the world, you probably can play by ear for all the tunes you know. However, most people either know a few tunes very well, and then are stuck only playing gigs where those tunes are played. Or, people like me/Moffett play many tunes mediocrely, and always bring/use/read charts.
@Parvenu333 I'm going to say you're probably right in everything you said, especially since I only started my jazz lessons 2 months ago. However, I guess you're right that he should have been more prepared especially at that age/stage in his career. I only hope to one day be able to outline chords that quickly (even 2-5-1s...). And I use filler notes roughly half the time, so I understand what he's feeling :P. It's probably bad that a beginner is relating to a professional though.
@simonhwang4 In jazz, bassists don't read music. You're right. They don't "read" chord progressions either unless they're faking a tune. You have to know a tune to play it well. Moffett doesn't play it well. He's coasting over the changes mostly, and he plays the same sort of thing a lot of the time, regressing into a safe zone when confronted with something he can't deal with. In all, he should not have been soloing over a tune he didn't know...
@simonhwang4 Mmmmm, it's clear to me that he doesn't have any sort of grasp on this harmonic progression of the tune during his solo. I hear him outline 2-5-1's but everything else is a mess. Example, 4:55 he plays a line outlining the ii-V7-i, then drops to an open A, a non-chord tone and a low non-chord tone at that, functioning not as an upper structure or in any significant way at all--it's a filler note. He didn't know what to play and skimped a change because he doesn't know the tune.
@aefdsasefda In jazz, bassists don't read music, they read chord progressions. Say one measure the first half will have C7 written on it, that means he plays any notes he feels like with the strong beats having C, E, G, or Bb in them (the chord tones). He's not "reading music" in the conventional sense. Chord progressions are like a guideline, but he colors it and shapes it how he wants to. I'm a beginner jazz bassist, and he is AMAZING. If you have any questions, feel free to ask
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Altorane 8 months ago
@Parvenu333 I see. Thanks for the in-depth explanation! :D
simonhwang4 11 months ago
You don't have to be famous to have a good ear. Just do more transcribing/listening and you'll get better at hearing changes. I've been in situations where I've had to learn a tune on the spot that nobody has a chart for, and it's not that hard because I've worked on my ear. You just have to have a good ear and know chord relationships, what they sound like, how they function, etc. In the end having a good ear is what spontaneous composition (improvisation) comes down to.
Parvenu333 1 year ago
@Parvenu333 OH yea, I forgot. Also, it depends on the type of jazz bassist whether they are using the chord progressions or not. If you are a super amazing jazz bassist who is a legend around the world, you probably can play by ear for all the tunes you know. However, most people either know a few tunes very well, and then are stuck only playing gigs where those tunes are played. Or, people like me/Moffett play many tunes mediocrely, and always bring/use/read charts.
simonhwang4 1 year ago
@Parvenu333 I'm going to say you're probably right in everything you said, especially since I only started my jazz lessons 2 months ago. However, I guess you're right that he should have been more prepared especially at that age/stage in his career. I only hope to one day be able to outline chords that quickly (even 2-5-1s...). And I use filler notes roughly half the time, so I understand what he's feeling :P. It's probably bad that a beginner is relating to a professional though.
simonhwang4 1 year ago
@simonhwang4 In jazz, bassists don't read music. You're right. They don't "read" chord progressions either unless they're faking a tune. You have to know a tune to play it well. Moffett doesn't play it well. He's coasting over the changes mostly, and he plays the same sort of thing a lot of the time, regressing into a safe zone when confronted with something he can't deal with. In all, he should not have been soloing over a tune he didn't know...
Parvenu333 1 year ago
@simonhwang4 Mmmmm, it's clear to me that he doesn't have any sort of grasp on this harmonic progression of the tune during his solo. I hear him outline 2-5-1's but everything else is a mess. Example, 4:55 he plays a line outlining the ii-V7-i, then drops to an open A, a non-chord tone and a low non-chord tone at that, functioning not as an upper structure or in any significant way at all--it's a filler note. He didn't know what to play and skimped a change because he doesn't know the tune.
Parvenu333 1 year ago
@aefdsasefda In jazz, bassists don't read music, they read chord progressions. Say one measure the first half will have C7 written on it, that means he plays any notes he feels like with the strong beats having C, E, G, or Bb in them (the chord tones). He's not "reading music" in the conventional sense. Chord progressions are like a guideline, but he colors it and shapes it how he wants to. I'm a beginner jazz bassist, and he is AMAZING. If you have any questions, feel free to ask
simonhwang4 1 year ago
@aefdsasefda that just makes him a little bit more human i think
slapit5 1 year ago
from what ive read charnett moffett is also 20 years old, its cool if hes gotta read music
coolcolbass 1 year ago