Frank Zappa - Treacherous Cretins - 1984, Los Angeles (audio)

FZ and the band plays Treacherous Cretins, 1984-07-21. Soundboard recording.

Notice the change from 4/4 to 11/4!


Frank Zappa - lead guitar, lead vocals, band leader
Ike Willis - rhythm guitar, vocals
Ray White - rhythm guitar, vocals
Napoleon Murphy Brock - tenor saxophone, vocals
Bobby Martin - keyboards, tenor saxophone, french horn, vocals
Allan Zavod - keyboards
Scott Thunes - bass
Chad Wackerman - drums

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Music

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• frank
• zappa
• Treacherous
• Cretins
• shut
• up
• 'n
• play
• yer
• guitar
• solo
• live
• bootleg

[effsixteenblock50]

@SkydivinWhales contrary to what you may hear elsewhere, 1 scale works over both chords: A Mixolydian b6, AKA D Melodic Minor.

[zoldrin]

Never heard this in 11/4 before. Truly amazing! Thank you, now I have started collecting live recordings!

[stargate669]

@SkydivinWhales lydian and mixolydian are some of the modes Frank uses but he also does polyscale stuff. Check out the real frank zappa book transcribed by Steve Vai if you're looking to start working this out. One of the first bits of music I learnt was trecherous cretins from this book. It is tough but will really improve your ear and technique. The polyrhythms work when you put them against 4/4 and you'll have fun doing that!

[SkydivinWhales]

Anyone know what sort of scale work Zappa employs in this song?

My ears not great, but I know there's some whole tone stuff going down, god what an animal

[StatenIslandsouth2]

too bad he check out so early, would have been nice if he ws still around making music

[Arckitekt]

Ha Luv Treacherous Cretins...SU&PYG !

[BigNeonGlitterGirl]

Beautiful

[48perkins]

bad ass song...

[CosmikDebrisFZ]

Awesome!

[mackeymkay]

Fantastic performance. And this shit is LIVE! But who cares about that, let's see that hair!