New York killed everyone in Tony's crew that would refuse to work for them. They always saw New Jersey as a glorfied crew with redundant upper managment. Tony doesn't even suspect Carlo would go ...
New York killed everyone in Tony's crew that would refuse to work for them. They always saw New Jersey as a glorfied crew with redundant upper managment. Tony doesn't even suspect Carlo would go over to New York even though Silvio warned him and Mink said that there was no evidence Carlo was working with the Feds besides his son getting picked up. Most of the audience just assume, as Tony had, that Carlo was not working with New York, but flipped. Carlo is kind of dumb, but he was old school, he was not a rat.
Butch may not have killed Tony right away on purpose because Tony could be easily used later to get rid of Phil Leotardo. But Butch hates Tony.
Coco harassed Tony's daughter.
Tony retaliated by brutally beating up, but not killing, Coco. He also pointed a gun at Butch. Wont Coco and Butch want revenge? Why does Butch, who never respected nor feared Tony, make a simple deal with him later when they arrange a hit on Phil?
Butch probably approached Carlo to step in and fill the power vacuum after they get rid of the hot head Phil and the miserable Tony. Carlo at one point boasted that his son was earning a lot of money. Carlo's family is moving up in the world.
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you look at the last season, even after tony contemplates killing paulie, there are several signs which point to paulie, e.g., when new jersey plan on wacking phil, paulie asks bobby and sil, "does tony know about this". There were other signs too.
@markmallia I don' t think Paulie flipped, he would never do that, and the actor made it clear, he would never be a rat, but I do think Paulie had Tony whacked! He knew how close he came on the boat, and he wasn't going to give Tony another chance. Besides it was clear when Tony was in the hospital, he didn't give a rats ass about Tony
I don't think Butch had a reason to kill Tony. He basically ok'd the murder of phil but refused to help by telling his whereabouts. Also Carlo did flip. In the very final scene Tony says so to Carmela.
@Wobbothe3rd do you think butchie was going to have Phil whack? After all there was another guy, I never saw before with him. When its clear its just a phone call, the other guy walks away. Maybe Phil didn't trust Butchie?
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I figure in all probabilities it was Carlo, whose son got arrested around the same time. Who else?
Did you notice the cold weather and the sound effects in both scenes?