New York killed everyone in Tony's crew that would refuse to work for them. They always saw New Jersey as a glorfied crew with redundant upper managment. Tony doesn't even suspect Carlo would go ...
New York killed everyone in Tony's crew that would refuse to work for them. They always saw New Jersey as a glorfied crew with redundant upper managment. Tony doesn't even suspect Carlo would go over to New York even though Silvio warned him and Mink said that there was no evidence Carlo was working with the Feds besides his son getting picked up. Most of the audience just assume, as Tony had, that Carlo was not working with New York, but flipped. Carlo is kind of dumb, but he was old school, he was not a rat.
Butch may not have killed Tony right away on purpose because Tony could be easily used later to get rid of Phil Leotardo. But Butch hates Tony.
Coco harassed Tony's daughter.
Tony retaliated by brutally beating up, but not killing, Coco. He also pointed a gun at Butch. Wont Coco and Butch want revenge? Why does Butch, who never respected nor feared Tony, make a simple deal with him later when they arrange a hit on Phil?
Butch probably approached Carlo to step in and fill the power vacuum after they get rid of the hot head Phil and the miserable Tony. Carlo at one point boasted that his son was earning a lot of money. Carlo's family is moving up in the world.
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I don't think Butch had a reason to kill Tony. He basically ok'd the murder of phil but refused to help by telling his whereabouts. Also Carlo did flip. In the very final scene Tony says so to Carmela.
I still think Carlo flipped. For one thing, Tony is certain of this in the final scene at the diner. Maybe he got further information between this scene and meeting the family for dinner. In any event, Carlo being "old school" is irrelevant. Plenty of old school gangsters have fliiped over the years.
As for Butch, he has no reason to hold a grudge against Tony. Butch is now the head of a NY crime family, thanks to Tony.
he flipped because noone herd from him and he was sopossed to meet paulie and never showed and his son got arrested. if u were the boss wat would u think.or if u wrote that script wat would u be implying.tobad we prob will never no the rest of the story
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I figure in all probabilities it was Carlo, whose son got arrested around the same time. Who else?
Silvio had already warned him that his earning was at an all time low, so he improved on it.
The way Phil was whacked in front of his family and no possibility of an open casket.
He would need to kill Tony S to safe face with NY family.
Boss 4 a boss both killed in front of there families all adds up?
Did you notice the cold weather and the sound effects in both scenes?
As for Butch, he has no reason to hold a grudge against Tony. Butch is now the head of a NY crime family, thanks to Tony.