Possible Electrolytes to use in Hydroxy Gas Generation

I briefly overview the possible electrolytes I could experiment with in testing hydroxy gas generation.

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• Hydroxy
• Gas
• Electrolytes
• hho

[bbad4all]

What do you think of using HYDROGREN PEROXIDE ?

[charlieehler]

I've heard of using it in a recipe for baking soda and vinegar. Haven't tried it yet. The 3% H2O2 is pretty weak. If the 10% solution can be found it would be better.

My only concern is breakdown of the compound to water. If electrolysis does that, then the electrolyte will lose its ability to pass current.

[spikeychops]

Cont from above..

watertight container of say a couple of inches by a couple of inches (a sphere would do), and put this into a large tank of water. Ignite the powder, and you have instant steam to drive a turbine, heat water, provide motive force, etc etc. Also, as a nice by product, if graphite is used as crucible (solid pressed sphere containing thermite powder, and electrodes to create a short, thus heat) diamonds will form at 2500c!!!!

Electricity and diamonds from rust and aluminium???

[charlieehler]

I think you would have to isolate the carbon from oxygen intrusion to get the diamonds instead of it being added to the combustion. Is the thermite a self-contained reaction, or does it require atmospheric oxygen to work?

Also, what are the byproducts of doing this? Iron and Aluminum Oxide, I presume. To recover the aluminum would take too much energy to make it worthwhile, I would think.

Charlie

[spikeychops]

Further to thinking about chlorophyll (a) , it has a molecular formula C55H72O5N4Mg, meaning it has 72 atoms of hydrogen in it's make up, and 5 oxygen. (55 carbon, 4 Nitrogen, and 1 magnesium. Pretty high H count.

From wiki: "The electron flow produced by the reaction center chlorophyll pigments is used to shuttle H+ ions across the thylakoid membrane...(of a plant)"

spikey.

[charlieehler]

I saw in the news where scientists figured out how to reproduce that chemically or something like it. they either reproduced the action or the enzyme that breaks the molecular bond of water.

Charlie

[HHO4ALL]

OxyClean works great, but creates chlorine gas. I will include a video with a test I did on one of my wet cells.

[spikeychops]

Not certain on the atmospheric oxygen point, but i'm fairly sure the iron oxide would provide the needed oxygen. I'd say allow the oxides to go to waste.

I'm imagining a continous reaction (well, apart from the time taken to submerge another thermosphere (just made that name up, nice isn't it!) into the tank (mechanically inserted) when the steam production falls to below a set threshold. Just start the process over again with a fresh thermosphere, continous steam for nearly zero cost.

spike

[spikeychops]

Really? Interesting. I'll have a search.

What about the components of 'thermite'?

Thermite (as i discovered just today), is made from finely powdered Iron oxide (rust) and aluminium. !!! (that's all it is!!??)

When ignighted with a flame, or an electrical ignition, reacts violently and reaches a temperature of approx 2500C in a matter of seconds!

Am i missing something here?

why don't the worlds power hungry, simply obtain rust, alu powder, and encase it in a small (continues below)

[spikeychops]

Fermented Urine or pee piss whatever you want to call it, is basically excreted ammonia (VERY high in fish tank water, for those that want to try old fish tank water as an electrolyte). Ammonia (pure) is Nitrogen and hydrogen, and has the formula NH3. (3 parts H to 1 part N) So by that reasoning, each molecule of ammonia, should release 33% more Hydrogen than H20 (having only 2 parts H to 1 part O), or is my thinking fundamentally flawed here?

spikey.