The producers of the critically-acclaimed documentary "Icons of Evolution" sat down for an interview with Dr. Berlinski. This is a clip from that interview.
David Berlinski was raised in New York City, educated at Columbia College and recieved his Ph.D in philosophy from Princeton University. He later became a Fellow of the Faculty in Mathematics and a Post Doctoral Fellow in molecular biology at Columbia University.
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the difference is there is no selection pressure in the example of the novels (i.e. no reason to prefer one copy over a slightly different copy)
Last time I checked, the theory of evolution posits 2 major driving forces of evolution: mutation and natural selection
Leaving one of them out when making an analogy is just total intellectual dishonesty.
Criticizing evolutionary theory is all well and good, but at least don't make paper thin obviously poor arguments. Berlinski should be ashamed.
AntiTheocracy 3 months ago
That is one the best explanation for weak hypothesis of evolution!
drshamast 3 months ago
Crap. I just watched this again, after few hours... in 500 years, a group of monks mis-wrote Don Quixote into War and Pece? And that you find analogous to biological evolution? Really, reeealllyyy...?
Just had to emphasize what a crude and bad argument this is.. christ.. :p
ttcmp0 4 months ago
This might be one of the worst claims by Berlinski. First of, a horse will never evolve into a chicken. This has been refuted many times over and it is stupid to argue thus.
Second: To make DNA copying and book copying similar, we would be talking about millions of copies over hundreds of thousand years.. Well, Don Quixote might translate into War and Peace, but no one will know and it will happen in so many years it is almost unimaginable. Life might even arise _again_ in the meantime...
ttcmp0 4 months ago
The truth is not determined by how many scientist agree on something, that's not very good science in my book..... if evolution is true then so be it.... if it's not then so be it..... but at least let's ask some hard questions.... This Dr. is great and he is right, he's not even claiming to know the answers, he just wants honest science.
reubengonz 4 months ago
Mathematically, if you want to write a book by pressing randomly on a type writer then from the start of the universe until today you would not be able to create any of Shakespeares dramas. The same could be argued about any genetic code if you start out with randomly mixed molecules.
rmir2 6 months ago
@Tripockets The answer is The Theory of Evolution, it explains how evolution, the process and a fact, happens.
gregrutz 8 months ago
@Tripockets Answer what scientist? Mr. Butinski is not a scientist, never had a job as a scientist. He is paid to BS by the Discovery Institute. He has no answers, he makes it look like there is a problem with evolution but of course he doesn't even uderstand it.
Ramdom mutations? Darwin didn't even know about mutations and showed how evolution works.
No one listens to ''Darwin' anyway, he is dead, his ideas 150 years out of date.
gregrutz 8 months ago
@procommenter Get help.
gregrutz 8 months ago
@Tripockets Science does not care about argument from authority. All scientists think they are right so it does not carry much weight.
Mr. Butinski is paid to make up stupid questions.
Natural Selection is what powers evolution. If you accept Natural selection and adaptation that IS evolution.
Darwin's Evolution is 150 years out of date, proving him wrong won't prove evolution wrong.
Religious people are sheeple and follow what they are told. People study science it is not accepted on BS
gregrutz 8 months ago