Cruelty as art - (When is art NOT art ?)

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• Guillermo
• Vargas
• Habacuc
• art
• artist
• dying
• dog
• gallery
• costa
• rica
• suffer
• poor
• hungry
• cruel
• ex

[jorindeadeye]

Well there are a lot of people there; maybe he wants to test human perception and capacity of action. Yes the dog was suffering like in the street all know that but no one did something to help the dog. They ask to artists to help him but he wasn't there to do that. In fact there was a dog with a rope in a corner of the building, don’t belong to anyone and don’t respond to anyone he’s starving. Someone could bring some food, someone could cut the rope. They prefer to see him die.

[richtomes]

@jorindeadeye - yeah sort of like a science experiment at the dog's expense - fortunately there are laws protecting animal's rights.

[BlacknWhitesAlright]

It absolutely confounds me that you think that "believing that cruelty can have anything to do with art" is "heartless stupidity." Does this exclude all Existentialist explorations from artistic validity because they put on display the cruel randomness of life? How about The Torture Garden, or The Story of O - are they non-Art as well?

Mind you, I'm not arguing the ethics of this particular action one way or the other - I'm saying rather that cruelty has quite a lot to do with much of art.

[richtomes]

@BlacknWhitesAlright - Actual cruelty is different to the representation of cruelty - fact is different to fiction - reality is different to imagination

[NovacGustav]

The message behind this was not the visual of the dog, but the point that people only start to care about the suffering of others when it forced into their face. Thousands of times daily people will see a starving dog on the street and shoo it away - the same people who are protesting this display. Vargas didn't starve the dog, he brought it inside in the condition it was already in.

My point is - if people honestly cared there wouldn't be starving dogs in the street in the first place.

[richtomes]

abuse is not art

[denvermarathon]

clearly, this was a successful piece of art, as it provoked this kind of emotional and physical response from you.

[akn220]

@richtomes shutup

[IamZanderss]

The claim that the dog was left to die is an unconfirmed rumor spread around on the internet.

"Upon conducting a probe, the Humane Society of the United States was informed that the dog was in a state of starvation when it was captured and escaped after one day of captivity; however, the organization also categorically condemned "the use of live animals in exhibits such as this"

I'm not saying what he did was good or if it was art, but it appears he didn't actually starve it to death.

[Ultimist]

@thepennymachine If you see anything 'beautiful' about this, you are an inhuman monster and should be murdered violently in front of your entire family. You are a vile, disgusting pile of gutter trash, not worthy of life. A writer of tragedies doesn't cause harm to another living being by writing. A painter doesn't CAUSE HARM to another living being by painting. People like you should be shot. If you were in front of me now i would have no problem slitting your throat. And I'm dead serious.

[SuperGoat777]

die dog killing scum "artist"

[0707NicePlayer]

the guy that made that... isn't an artist...

[christph31]

Sick bastard.How about i tie your ass up with wire and gag you for 3 weeks without food and water..see if its still art..

[wingedbeetle]

@NovacGustav that's a load of bull shit. people do honestly care. the fact is that you can't save all of them- trust me, i've tried. no one wants it forced in their face that there's nothing they can do to stop the suffering of another and those that can do something won't.

My point is - it's wrong, heartless, and the people who care aren't the problem. it's people like this piece of shit.

[TheSeanmansfield]

yo rite poor dogs

[Sarcasmitron]

This shit is a hoax, he made an exhibit with a stray dog in it, but no one starved it to death. You can look the shit up on snopes.

[denvermarathon]

@periblues is it the ACT of the creator (artist) or the ACTION of the receiver (uh..i.e. audience) which is the 'art'? its clear that the 'artist' knows his art, but do YOU? could it be that this kind of continual commitment to responses that mr. richtomes is what "communicative" an art based on is about?