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When Pilate calls attention to his authority to crucify him, Jesus points out that Pilate's power comes to him from above, that is to say from God.... Jesus commends the good thief on the cross next to him, who has admitted that he and his fellow thief are receiving the reward of their deeds. Traditio.
Oblationem 3 weeks ago
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In the New Testament, the right of the State to put criminals to death seems to be taken for granted.... At no point ... does Jesus deny that the State has authority to exact capital punishments. In his debates with the Pharisees, Jesus cites with approval the apparently harsh commandment, "He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die." ... Traditio.
Oblationem 3 weeks ago
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In the O.T., the Mosaic Law specifies 36 capital offenses calling for execution by stoning, burning, decapitation or strangulation. Included in the list are magic, blasphemy, violation of the Sabbath, murder, adultery, bestiality, (pederasty) and incest. The death penalty was considered especially fitting as a punishment for murder, since in his covenant with Noah, God had laid down the principle, "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed...."
Traditio.
Oblationem 3 weeks ago
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It is the Holy Father and the bishops who are outside the Catholic mainstream, and at odds with Scripture, tradition and Natural Law. For an exposition of Catholic doctrine, one should pick up the essay by Avery Cardinal Dulles in the April issue of First Things. As Dulles notes, Catholicism has supported the death penalty for 2000 years.
Traditio.
Oblationem 3 weeks ago
@Oblationem
There is an entire section in the Catechism opposing the death penalty. Just google "Catholic view on death penalty" and you'll get your answer.
It seems that you are twisting the Church's position. For my entire life I have known the Church to be an outspoken foe of the death penalty. You need to clearly double check your sources.
And Jesus says fear those who kill your soul, not kill them...
TheRuner24 3 weeks ago
The Church never has permitted (murder). However it does support a (just) death penalty. If the Church does not support a just death penalty, show me where it is written. Jesus said, fear not those who can kill your bodies, but fear those who can kill your soul. Pedophiles kill souls. Not all, but many victims of pedophiles become pedophiles themselves and the crime becomes repetitious killing more souls. Before the death sentence, pedophiles should be permitted confession.
Oblationem 3 weeks ago
@Oblationem
I went back and forth and read your correspondence with another user regarding the morality of capital punishment.
Please think before you speak. The Catholic Church does not support murder. It doesn't even encourage the execution of murders, so why on earth would it permit the murder of pedophiles, who as bad as they are, still leave the person alive?
I can show you tons of documents that prove the Church is opposed to capital punishment. What do you have to say?
TheRuner24 3 weeks ago
@Oblationem
When Pilate calls attention to his authority to crucify him, Jesus points out that Pilate's power comes to him from above, that is to say from God.... Jesus commends the good thief on the cross next to him, who has admitted that he and his fellow thief are receiving the reward of their deeds. And that was just for stealing, not for pedophiles.
Oblationem 1 month ago
@sllipful
The Holy Father and the bishops are outside the Catholic mainstream, and at odds with Scripture, tradition and Natural Law. One should pick up the essay by Avery Cardinal Dulles in an issue of First Things April 2002. As Dulles notes, Catholicism has supported the death penalty for 2000 years.
Oblationem 1 month ago
@Oblationem
The commence of this entire spectacle was your assertion that pedophiles can be executed under Church teaching. This is at odds with the position of the Church. It's as clear cut and simple as that.
Capital punishment is not permitted as a whole for those who molest children. There are alternatives to the death penalty. I don't condone what these sick people do, but I follow Christ's teaching.
I apologize for the major delay in responding. I was working overseas.
sllipful 1 month ago