Jesus Didn't Satisfy God's Wrath: Part One

Jesse Morrell talking about the atonement of Christ and how it relates to the wrath of God. This is moral government theology vs. Calvinism

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[MrPeaceKey]

I agree with you. This is needed.

It is also my understanding that God has emotions and can be unhappy.

However, he cannot suffer in the sense of payment for unrighteousness.

Christ suffered for us as a human, not as God.

So it was illogical and impossible for him to make a full payment for our sins.

Our sins have been removed and forgotten, but we fall back under the judgment of God if we turn away from Him because a complete payment was not made.

Right?

Bible and Finney.

[bibletheology]

I agree with you!

[shellz641]

@ccwonder23 They're not talking about physical death. They mean spiritual death which is said to be even more painful and eternal.

[shellz641]

I think the Wrath of God is satisfied FOR ALL WHO BELIEVE IN JESUS AND FOLLOW JESUS. God's wrath is not satisfied when it comes to those who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. However, the followers of Jesus must take up their cross of inevitable persecution and suffering in order to spread the Truth of the Gospel.

[NOLongeraDREAMER]

I hope the wrath of God never falls on anyone.

[bighilly74]

For the Elect there is no more wrath

[jjmeyer79]

Jesus satisfied the wrath of God for those who are justified. To those in hell, their sins are obviously not atoned for. Not only do you misrepresent certain preachers, you make a better case for a limited atonement at they hold to. You have some real problems with your theology bud.

[lieberR1]

Jesus said, "It is finished."

Mercy is when the just God dies for the unjust sinner. Mercy is in the free gift of salvation. Galatians 2:20: "I have been crucified with Christ," couldn't be clearer. My sin died in Christ, and I was a child of God even before conversion (John 11:52)

you said Christ didn't buy anything, read 1 Cor 6:20. Your view of atonement is not biblical

The wrath of God is satisfied when it comes to believers

You are arguing against universalism, not calvinism.

[droptozro]

@hoosfan77

Because a sacrifice still had to be made for forgiveness of sins. Scripture teaches that blood must be spilled for the forgiveness of sins, and Christ being the perfect sacrifice--was THE LAST sacrifice(this is the reason the new covenant, we do not still make blood sacrifices yearly). He suffered in man's hands, as God lifted His hand of protection from Jesus and delivered Him unto wicked men to be stricken, beaten, and crucified. The spotless lamb takes away sins of the world.

[hoosfan77]

I feel like this view of the atonement really has no need for Christ and the cross. If God can simply turn away from our sins and ignore them, why is Jesus on the cross? Why must God as man suffer and die?