Chen Taijiquan - Laojia Yi Lu (part 1)

Laojia Yi Lu performed by Grandmaster Chen Zhenglei (part 1)

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[wswzyzh]

some dumass don't even know Taichi. Just SHUT UP. GO to CHEN's Village and challege them with ur whatever martial arts

[ajaben]

so smooth...like he's underwater

[BlazeLeeDragon]

Interesting, because the Chinese word for a buddha is Fo, like in the phrase "amituofo". Though buddhism spread to and is practiced in China, it's still Chan Buddhism in China and Zen in Japan.

though if you translate Jin gang dao dui that way I can see the relevance.

[bcnihao]

"Jin gang dao dui" is usually translated as "Buddha's warrior attendant pounds mortar." The movement name isn't just "dao dui," after all. I think you can see the relevance now, to your comment about buddhism, taoism, and taijiquan?

[BlazeLeeDragon]

just Blaze, well with Taijiquan there sequences, the first two at my school at least is called yu be shi then jin gang dao dui (pounds the mortar).

as far as the specific movements what he's doing is very similar to what my school does but my sifu usually says something along the lines of wave hands to the left, wave hands to the right. if your talking about that part after he raises his arms and sinks. why? this is kinda off topic for my comment on Zen vs Chan.

[bcnihao]

BlazeLee, what's the name of the first movement (after "beginning") of the sequence that CZL is demonstrating in this clip?

[bcnihao]

BTW, for commentary by CXW on that sort of movement, see p. 13 of the October 1999 issue of T'ai Chi magazine.

[bcnihao]

The "swaying" (rippling) is a method used in a particular stage of training. It's not appropriate for everyone, and CZL doesn't always do it in his demos.

[Alwaysparadox8]

Mr. notdrockok

You are only half correct. As far as sinking and stacking goes, you are right. However, Master Chen also has an enormous amount of suspension. He is not supported by stacked structure through the body. Each plate is hanging from the sky. Between each plate is peng jin. Each plate touches the earth. Yin and yang in harmony. Master Chen is far beyond structure level.

[Guy Le Claire]

Dear Mr. Chen , Xie Xie Ni!

Wo Ai Ni.

Jia Le (A-Guy)

[notdrockok]

I point this out as the weight of the torso is to be looked at as if being stacked up through the spine, like a pile of plates, where the weight settles into the hammock of the kua through posture and relaxation. Swaying sends this off balance. Chen Taijiuan is utmost about feeling of structure and weight distribution first, appearance last. Many Chen practitioners and teachers get caught up in the "look" of the style and not the internal mechanics.

[notdrockok]

However, it ought to be pointed out that the Chen teachers are not necessarily as good as they could be, and that Chen Xiaowang has the purest form for Chen Taijjiquan. If you look at Chen Zhenglei he sways an awful lot in this video, which is not in conjunction with Chen principles.