Consciousness and Immortality

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[jaeLAX23]

Hello again, sorry for buggin' ya too so much, but you'll like this......

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[EpicAthiest]

@jaeLAX23

lol. Thanks

[CombateArmsOndraya]

Have you seen this yet? h t t p://news.nationalgeographic.c o m/news/2012/01/120106-aging-mi­ce-stem-cells-old-young-scienc­e-health/ ^^ Biology might just catch up :D

I'm not really sure about the consciousness bit... I lean more to Kurzweil's view of it. If two separate people are formed I would like joined consciousness so like it would still be two people but like one mind. I would do my own thing and Copy Ashley would do her own thing but we would share our experiences.

[EpicAthiest]

@CombateArmsOndraya

Yeah I saw it a while back. Thing is, aging isn't just one process. It's a combination of many process. Telomere shortening, changes in hormone regulation, irregular gene expression, cell damage, free radicals, radiation. To cure it, it would require a combination of many therapies/medicine. There's many claims of aging "cures" but really just small pieces of the puzzle and they haven't been tested on humans yet so it's still a long way to go

[SaerdnaOoOoo]

But if we found a way to no shut down completely. That the bosy regenerates you and I now might be very different 500 years from now. It makes it a little pointless in one sense though very meaningful in another. We wan't to experience more. We have desire for knowledge, love, pleasure in different ways. Longer life might help us grasping how the world works so that our will toward our utopia reaches higher odds. To experience it. I think this model really outmatches the typical idea of a soul.

[EpicAthiest]

@SaerdnaOoOoo

Yeah. I agree. What I'm in interested in is whether these 2 "different" people can look at each other and think relatively separate thoughts without being aware of the other.

For example, both would think "Hey, look I'm right over there", but be unable to perceive/think exactly what the other person is thinking but then, they would be like identical twins. What I want is to preserve ONE person without creating a second.

[SaerdnaOoOoo]

@EpicAthiest And I believe that because I think another assembly of other but identical matter won't make any difference to the persona. There is a difference that they wouldn't share the same matter, just identical matter and arrangement. I understand that you want to be immortal as in invurnerable. If we would extend our young lives with 500 years it would help a lot of coming to know how to become invurnerable and maintain your persona.

[SaerdnaOoOoo]

It's basically a persons will that usually wants immortality. It values it's own experience and want it's wishes to become true. It has that funtcion. The will change over time and if one somehow managed to become immortal I think what you're realy looking for is not only a non-ending reconstructive system but something that prevents the system and it's will to shut down completely or change too much. Some parts of us are continiously dying and we change into something slightly different.