The McLaughlin Group 10/28/2011

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[ehrengm]

so awesome to have these on youtube!

[eclecticdufus]

Illegals are not "immigrants." The Orwellian use of language has got to stop. And why are illegals who can't even get a social security number getting mortgages?!

Expand e-Verify and send employers and CEOs and execs who are convicted of knowingly hiring illegals (like McDonalds) should not be merely fined, they need to go to JAIL. Problem solved.

[shonstar]

@year2044 It's not a battle between ethnicities, sexual preferences, religion, etc. It's a battle between STATISTS and INDIVIDUALISTS. Pat sees the enemy as Marxist, 3rd World culture. Guess where that came from??? Any idea? White Christian Europe. He is a fool. It's IDEAS - specific ideas, that need to be re-awakened in the WEST. Individualism, Freedom, Achievement, Rational Selfishness, REASON - not the worship of Pat's MAN-GOD...um...Jesus. Please. What a joke.

[shonstar]

@year2044 You made my point for me, and perfectly so. What does Israel do when Palestinians can out vote Jews!!?!?! Oh my god. You can't vote on rights. That's why their bloody rights. Pat is dealing with effects instead of causes. No ETHNIC group or Interest Group has a thing to say to you if they have no power over you. Democracy is the evil. Mob Rule. We need to have a Rights Respecting Republic with Democratic institutions. That's not Pat's view and where he and I part ways.

[year2044]

@shonstar Look, I dont like Pats views on gays, Chirstian is the only way, whites build this country, I do not like those ideas of his nor his views on 'the good ole days of the 1950's & 60's' (after all, in those 'good ole days' innocent American's where being hanged). But what I do like is that he comes from a point of view that isn't even mentioned by others (UN Reports of ethnicity changing) as it will make a difference in the future. What does Israel do when Palestinians can out vote Jews?

[shonstar]

@year2044 You promise?

[year2044]

@shonstar This will be my last reply. You seem to dismiss factual statements because they do not coincide with your predetermined points of view. For you 'PATS A RACIST' & 'Big Govt. Lover' end of story; as for me I came with no predetermined views, I did however do some research & found statements, videos, articles, books that do not correlate with your views. Pat is asking for new 'Ideas' as he is saying from UN Reports that the 'old' way of thinking will not work n the future, ur ideas r old

[shonstar]

@year2044 I know. I'm WRONG about everything. How can I possibly believe Pat's lying lips. Your comment presupposes that ALL Jews think alike, which they don't. Are Jews, Mexicans, Arabs, etc. ALL monolithic BRAIN entities? Are we in the Matrix? Dude, Pat is a cultural determinist at best, and at worse, a racial one. I don't care if every American has purple skin. I care about their IDEAS. Not Christian White Ideas but enlightenment, rational, Classical Liberal ideas - the foundation of the USA.

[year2044]

@shonstar Your WRONG. Pat didnt say 'too many jews' he said there were alread too many people that THINK like her on the Supreme court (look it up). In his new book he states that NEW ideas must be made NOW, for instance in less than 6yrs Palestinians will out number Jews in Israel, he also states that by UN Reports by 2036 every race in America will b a minority (no 51% of any ethnicity) and that by 2025 America will NOT be the #1 economic power or military power, he demands new IDEAS

[shonstar]

@year2044 Another MAJOR issue I have with Pat is his association of IDEAS with ahem...ethnicity. These days, Jews are 50/50 split between right and left parties. But he had an issue with too many Jews on the Supreme Court. Why doesn't Pat attack IDEAS? Who cares what ethnic group is represented? Really. Jesus was a Jew. So Was Marx. So Was Ayn F-Ing Rand who was like Pat, against WW2 for many of the same reasons. JUDGE individiduals by ACTIONS and VALUES, not by bloody racism. Old lousy ideas.

[shonstar]

@year2044 In this very episode of McLaughlin, Pat attributes a lack of regulation, etc. as part of the downfall of our economy. Look, I agree with a lot of what he says by the US was NOT founded on Christianity, nor is being white a necessary component. It's IDEAS that move the world. Ironically, LATINOS from LATIN (ROME) are part of the enlightenment foundation of America. I am 100% against welfare and all forms of handouts but Pat's views are not "Classical Liberal", they are Conservative.

[year2044]

@shonstar Ok, well I'll not argue regarding 'minimum wage', milk cost $5.00 a gallon, minimum wage is $7.25 (after taxes a person brings home about $5.00 - so one hour of work for one gallon of milk). I will however argue with your 'statist' remark, please send me ONE LINK or youtube video where Pat suggest we don't have enough government. I too have watched Pat since I was a child & read most of his books. I've not heard him say 'More Govt.' is the answer. CSPAN has 3hrs of Pat on their websit