Objective Morality - Part 2

The lecture by Dr Andy Thomson, although over 50 minutes, is worth seeing in its entirety. It can be found here;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnXmDaI8IEo

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• objective
• morality
• richard
• dawkins
• andy
• thomson

[newperve]

@zenzombie72 Not having everyone agree is not disproof of objective morality, any more than having people disagree on whether UFOs landed in a cornfield means that there is no objective truth in that matter. It's called "being wrong". That humans cannot perfectly understand morality is no more puzzling given objective morality than that they don't perfectly understand their brains despite the neuro-sciences being objective. We're just not there yet.

[ThePuppyTurtle]

@robot014 You Fail at Spelling

[MtlRedAtheist]

I suppose a theist could argue that god gave everyone (except psychopaths) an innate sense of morality in the dorsal lateral pre-frontal cortex, which clearly isn't the only part of the brain affecting our decision making and therefore that we need to condition ourselves with rules and laws of their holy book so that we continue to do what their god says is right. Just playing devil's advocate. You know, Yahweh actually being the devil and all, lol.

[strikenetter]

Mmm? Morality is given to mankind directly from god, implemented, implanted and indoctrinated into human beings minus the text? And supposedly we have free will? This would refute this claim. If this proposal is correct, free will is only a mirage, for direct implantation of any information is not free will. This is a direct download, as to what we see in robots, which don't have free will.

[XForceBowhunter]

Genetic fallacy, lol.

[zenzombie72]

Great question at the end. My bible would instruct me to act selflessly rather than selfishly. Not that I wouldn't do the same were I an atheist. I can't answer for Christians but I would bet heavily that answers would vary, disproving objective morality as you say.

But taking this a step further, my answer to "What would You do" is always, "It depends on the situation at the time". I assume my morality and conscience are unshakeable, but who knows until it's tested?

[zenzombie72]

4.07 Damn fine point.

I can only think of - God IS the moral order of the universe.

[Jonstern1983]

But, pornography is not immoral in my world view. The other stuff you've mentioned yeah that's definitively immoral, but if you meant child pornography or torture porn (that is pornography in which people are being severely tortured), or snuff porn... I would have to agree with you. But who does filming one or more people having sex hurt?

[blaziermissy]

We shouldn't spend so much time on the god argument or where are morality comes from...what we should be doing is applying the scientific method to a social and economic system that ALLOWS our morality to flourish. A sound economic system will solve war, starvation, poverty, crime and social stratification and differential advantage.

THIS is what needs to be at the forefront...the god/moral argument can be solved with the commonality all religions share: some form of the Golden Rule.

[robot014]

god is good???

in the bible he is responsible for the killing of nearly 1 billon people...

he is a vile and evil serial killer... he should be shot.!!!!

religious people imbeciles..to try to hide his krimes...