2-2 Christian Cults - Dr. Walter Martin

Author of Kingdom of the Cults Dr. Walter Martin Describes Common themes in Christian Cults.

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[marcustakedown1210]

WHERE DOES THE BIBLE SAY GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT, the BIBLE never says GOD THE SON.....can anyone show me where it says "GOD THE SON", JESUS did NOT teach the TRINITY

[SKYSPLASH]

Matthew 27:43 He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, `I am the Son of God.'"

John 17:11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name--the name you gave me--so that they may be one as we are one.

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John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

John 17:10 [Speaking to the Father] All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.

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John 8 58"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" 59At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

[marcustakedown1210]

this guy is not right, G-D is not equal to JESUS, JESUS is our Lord , G-D is JESUS LORD, scriptures says even JESUS will be subject to G-D, their is not equal between the 2 except for them having the same message..The Holy Spirit is G-Ds power, NOT A 3rd member of the trinity.. IF He was 3rd member than the prophets would have gave him a throne next to the FATHER and SON, remember their was only 2 thrones seated in HEAVEN, EZEKIEL, DANIEL, JOHN all say so..only 2 thrones no 3rd

[SKYSPLASH]

John 10:31-33 [31] Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, [32] but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"  [33] "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

[DoctorDon16]

@SKYSPLASH Amen!

[uwique]

@dmcarden thomas called jesus "god"..there was no rebuke and no correction from jesus.

[mamainmancj]

Then you have no salvation. The trinity is the nature of the true God read 1 John 5:7

[dmcarden]

@SKYSPLASH That was the Jews interpretation that he said that, however, I find no evidence for a trinity. In fact, in 2Cor, the scriptures mention that after the 1000 years, Jesus will turn the kingdom back over to God so that God becomes all things to everyone... so to me the Trinity is a pagan belief.

[speakmymind4real]

@quranresponse I thought we were speaking about Jesus denying he is the One true God of the bible? You just changed the subject, but I will follow....... The 4 gospels were written in different times. If they were absolutely identical, this would prove that the bible is not inspired. In other words, they are like the newspapers. You have the TImes say one thing, and the Wall Street Journal say another. But both are true about the story just told in more detail than the other.

[speakmymind4real]

@quranresponse Please provide more evidence that Surah 4:159 is absolutely correct. What other writings used as evidence to show, without misinterpretation the literature, that Jesus did not die by crucifixion? First, Muhammad was not there to witness what happened. Second, there are no historical evidence of someone agreeing to Muhammad's claim. And lastly, how can we measure or test what Muhammad says is true. Help me out.

[speakmymind4real]

@quranresponse Ok, my point exactly! Jesus identifies himself as God by the Father confirming Jesus glorification in John-ch-12-vs-28...... All of this that I typed in response to your comment was to show you that either you take the bible as the truth or you deny it as a whole. Don't say one part is true and then the rest of it is false. I read the Quran, but I don't say that 1 part is true & the rest is not.

[quranresponse]

@speakmymind4real jesus never spoke to anyone in privet. so we only john has this verse why mattew, mark, luke, they dont have this word. peace.

[speakmymind4real]

@quranresponse Read 26, 27, 28, 29, and 30 which says "I and my Father are one." The Jews understood perfectly well what Jesus was saying. And he was saying that he is the One God, him and the Father.

[speakmymind4real]

@quranresponse Again, finish reading the next couple of verses. In this part of chapter 11 Jesus is proving to them that doubted his divinity that he was sent by the Father to save the world from the penalty of sin. Jesus calls Lazarus from out the tomb and the people were amazed. They told everyone about this miracle. And they believed that he is the Son of God, because no one can raise one from the dead unless he is with God.