Jean Paul Sartre Pros and Cons Part III

Part III: Romantic Love, Simone

Part I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MADFiV0V-ac
Part II
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Po0FmBeDfwo
Part III
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sSaJM2pfw2s

Category:

Education

Tags:

• sartre
• philosophy
• existentialism

[kicker618]

thnks for the help!!

[PianoIsTheRemedy]

You're welcome!

[kappasutre]

I think Simone de Beauvoir also had other lovers, but still a great presentation

[jamesdrhodes]

What about his history? His father died early. Emotional abandonment? Of course he's going to screw around. It keeps him safe! Otherwise, I liked the presentation.

[jamesdrhodes]

I enjoyed your discussing Sartre. I know very little of him or Existen. but want to learn more. One observation. I'm a psychotherapist and I did notice that he had lost his father at a young age. After working with folks like that for so many years as well as processing my own issues with my own distant father, it makes me wonder if his attitude about so called freedom wasn't possibly psychologically based? Skipping around and having multiple partners keeps you from attaching.

[leviethen]

omg i totaly agree with you about the phsycoligy part becasue emotions and philosophy is not a science because nothing is absolute we fluctuate

[natedaug1]

Good point about losing some of your freedom, in a relationship.

[natedaug1]

Sartre took a lot of speed, which helped him write a lot. He had an open relationship with Simone, also. Also the I think, the most interesting part of existentialism is authenticity and inauthenticity and you did not explicitly mention those, which is when you fully accept the responsibility for creating yourself. He thought marriage was an institution of the bourgeoisie, I believe.

[thoserandomaussies]

@PianoIsTheRemedy

I was actually shaking my head throughout the video when you were saying that you should sacrifice your essence to another. However, I read your comment here and I'm glad you had a moment of clarity. I feel that every other day I have these epiphanic moments where my beliefs are crushed and remolded.

The thing about love, it is an illusion in the sense that it isn't an inbuilt animal instinct, however society and culture make it so ingrained that it becomes a truism.

[jarden69]

For the really smart guy that you are, I'm surprised you don't recognize your own Bigotry. Open relationships may not be for YOU, but who are you to judge other people and their relationships? "Lose Respect"?...I don't think they ever asked for or care about your respect. They simply lived their lives the way they wanted. Jean Paul and Simone each provided value, and they didn't feel they owned each other.

[mybeardiskool]

I don't know if I'm misinterpreting you, but I feel as though you kind of contradict yourself. You feel that freedom of love is not very noble, and misses the point, and then go on to say that you hate the idea of love as an illusion.

I think that your hatred for the notion that love is an illusion caused by subconscious factors that determine the best "mate" is because you cannot let go of your freedom, much like Sartre did not want to let go of his freedom by loving

[Disembowelment]

I believe why he avoided love is because he valued himself, and being true to himself, and knowing himself more then anything else, and that was his purpose, to educate himself on the true knowledge of himself, im sure he would love to be in a relationship in time, but life is not long enough for him to know himself, and be in a relationship.