George Xu: Biggest Mistake

George Xu (Xu Guoming) talking to Scott P. Phillips about the biggest mistake he make in his training.

He then answers the questions what is purpose of sparring and how important is ground fighting?

http://www.mastergeorgexu.com/

Further discussions of these ideas can be found at http://northstarmartialarts.com/blog1/

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• Taijiquan
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• kungfu

[adov3]

ifu think that mma fighters are better than traditional fighters i think ur wrong the theory in chinneese martial art is totally diffrent than mma , mma to me is just glory fide streetfighting

[ogscott]

@adov3 MMA is a theater art designed for bright lights and slow motion instant replay. It takes much of it's style from historic Pro-wrestling, now with new and improved conditioning and pain compliance techniques. Traditional Chinese Martial arts was closely tied to theatrical rituals over centuries and so has lots of mime, flash and character development stuff. They both work well enough to do real damage, should the need arise.

[mixjourneyman]

continued: this was later proven again when people fought in a no rules situation in the first ufc. Now I love Chinese martial arts, but am willing to accept that ground fighting is sorely lacking in these styles.

I don't think there is a Chinese master alive today that could beat guys like Chuck Lidell and Silva in a street fight.

Its true that when you introduce weapons its different, but the same assertion could be made about weapons vs unarmed kung fu.

[ogscott]

Hi Mixjourneyman. I think you are missing something. Lidell and Silva use extensive conditioning. George Xu does very little conditioning. For him, getting those guys to submit is highly unlikely. So beating them means either a sudden knockout or a kill. George Xu doesn't use "techniques" either, that's why he says he can do on the ground what he does on his feet.

Those UFC bulldogs are the toughest bulldogs. But George Xu is more like a Lynx.

[Jubeski]

@mixjourneyman You are not ready to comment grasshopper. Internal strength is infinite while physical is limited.

[cottonfistman1]

MMA more conditioning, strength and power than technique, da best have good timing, technique & fighting skill, chinese arts more about using principles and effortless power, some one who had all the training in chinese arts and conditioning of mma would have great stand up. Chinese arts tend to emphasise sensitivity as well. Ground work no good in street as broken glass, needles and other things on floor, plus anyone can come and jump on your head while ur down there. (bite, gauge anti grap)

[alwaysparadox]

@mrwhippy40 Possible but not something to bet on. Every situation is different.

[mrussum1]

i don't know about other martial arts, but in the art I practise, the ground is to be avoided. like mr. xu said, you should be the one standing while they are on the ground. it is far from useless, but we try and avoid it. i'm curious about other martial artists' thoughts on groundfighting (not about mma fanboys' opinions tho)

[Dragunb0y]

i had the extremely enlightening opportunity to meet this gentleman twice in my life. im not sure what conditioning he undergoes, but at 70 years young this man told me how he was going to hit me beforehand both times, and then did it. very slowly and at short range, i felt everything i did to stop it was for not. it felt like getting hit by an iron bar... not fun.

[SaaErDetNok]

If there were modern day communities or tribes of people, who trained different styles/schools of martial arts, with the sole purpose of killing others in melee combat, or be killed themselves - then, maybe, these "Fighter X vs Fighter Y" types of scenarios would have some hypothetical value, but in my immediate opinion: nobody today trains melee figting for the sake of dedicating their lives to mortal combat, in some form or other. So the last "step" is always an extrapolation-i.e. speculation

[SaaErDetNok]

Something happened there... it was supposed to start: the biggest weakness of MMA as a "self-defence system". It stands to reason that other martial arts, have other weaknesses. That being said; it is often brought up that this or that MMA superstar could beat, this or that martial artist. I don't see the point, however.. these guys train much more extensively and intensively that most anyone else involved in "fighting art", so obviously they have an edge right there.

[SaaErDetNok]

MMA as a "self-defence system", is that when you are on the ground in a "non-tournament" situation, there is no referee to prevent anyone else from interfering - AND if a guy has a hidden blade or such, it is difficult to avoid getting cut or stabbed in such close quarters.