Logic behind Uncorrupted Transmission of the Quran

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[peaceful661]

So the Holy Prophet muhammad(pbuh) after reciting to his followers counter checked many times and asked them what they had written down. Problem solved.

[yessua9ibnallah]

@peace.  Who check for accuracy AFTER the death of the Prophet?

[osmaan87]

# Qur'an 3:187 The Jews "cast it (Allah's book) "behind their backs"

# Qur'an 4:46 The Jews "alter the words from their places" and "distort the book with their tongues."

# Qur'an 5:13 The Jews "altered the words from their places" and "forgot a good part of the message."

# Qur'an 5:15 The Jews "concealed that which Muhammad had made clear" and Muhammad made clear much which they had "passed over" (in their book)

# Qur'an 5:41 The Jews "alter the words from their places."

[yessua9ibnallah]

osmaan, tafsir 5:13 "Since their comprehension became corrupt, they behaved treacherously with Allah's Ayat, altering His Book from its apparent meanings which He sent down, and distorting its indications." Again, refers more to the meaning and interpretation rather than the text corruption or responsibility of man to keep the text pure.

[yessua9ibnallah]

osmaan, tafsir 5:15 "So the Prophet explained where they altered, distorted, changed and lied about Allah. He also ignored much of what they changed, since it would not bring about any benefit if it was explained." refers to the prophethood of Muhammad and the the "lies" that christians and jews told about Allah not to the Torah or Ingil.

[yessua9ibnallah]

osmaan, tafsir 5:41: ' They change the words from their places: by altering their meanings and knowingly distorting them after they comprehended them." again refer to meaning and interpretation. It looks like instead of proving your point, your interpreters have proven that the Torah or the Ingil cant be changed, that is if you believe that the Quran cant be changed too. So if you believe that the Torah and the Ingil were corrupted, then you have to believe that the Quran can be corrupted too.

[osmaan87]

Both the Jews and Christians were literate peoples who knew their scriptures. Quran 2:79 when read in context clearly states that the illiterate people were writing the book 'with their own hands' and claiming it was from Allah. Since we know the people of the Book were literate, these verses are not referring to them.

[osmaan87]

The Quran never charges that the Jews and Christians have physically corrupted their scriptures. It states that they have 'changed words from their right places (with their mouths)' and 'concealed parts of the message given to them'.

[osmaan87]

you know what you made a good point when you what you said about the text of the Quran when man were entrusted with it and added the harakat. but see Uthman (as) kept the text the way Muhammed(saw) recited it so that together should say enough the Quran is pure. as for the other scriptures according to some research the originals are pure except the interpretations and i think transliterations. is that correct?

[osmaan87]

thats why in Islam we dont say the books of ALLAH were corrupt we generally believe that is was revealed. the bible is a different story that is not torah or injil its bible and that was extremely altered

[yessua9ibnallah]

osmaan, tafsir 3:187 "In this Ayah, Allah chastises the People of the Scriptures, from whom Allah took the covenant by the words of their Prophets, that they would believe in Muhammad... However, they hid this truth and preferred the the small amounts and the material gains..." is a warning, doesnot support your claims of a corrupted Torah.