Beef ? Charles Hamilton vs. Joe Budden debate on LL Cool J vs. Rakim & KRS One

Personally, I think rappers should be judged on both hustle and flow, not one or the other. LL Cool J is not known for lyrical content and Rakim and KRS One are not known for their album sales. Therefore Charles Hamilton and Joe Budden where both right. The background Music "The Code" by Kane Mayfield can be downloaded FOR FREE at http://maniamusicgroup.com , the album is called "Prelude to the Bladerunner"

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[xspade777]

fuck what they saying about LL ending careers Cannibus CHEWED LL period !!!

[envyops]

Rakim and Kris set a much higher lyrical standard than LL. LL stayed relevant for a much longer period of time, but female fans'll do that for you and overall they don't give a fuck about lyrics. I do. I choose Rakim and Kris cause I never forgave LL for that "I Need Love" bullshit. Gotta be the fakest, most insincere record of all time.

[egsyphron]

fucken royce taking a sip of patron straight from the bottle

[rloco80]

@supremetechnique98 Really!! Thanks for schooling me on the info. That's some interesting points! I never knew. Rakim was definitely ahead of his time!! He's one of my favorite emcees of all time as well. PEACE!!

[supremetechnique98]

@rloco80 Paid In Full was RECORDED in 86'. Rakim actually manifested the concept/album a year earlier in 85' which was a year after he fully embraced the NGE (5 percenters). Even if you listen to lyrics he refers to himself as "Knowledge God" which symbolizes the numbers (1)(7) in the Supreme Mathematics. Thats why I said he was 17 when he layed vocals to that culture changing classic known as Paid In Full. Peace.

[tateavery21]

@mrdta97 No LL did it all of what u sayin and all what the real peeps that seen LL do it. LL is the most versatile rapper/artist and MC. Peeps didnt hear "FO SHO", what ya hood like. Freeestyles in parkin lots and dark blocks. LLis a cultural ICON Listen to his entire body of work. LL is only hip hopper to go in multiple era's.No one else longer. Its a reason why. He does allot that made cats do what they doin now like LL said on his return of the goat mixtape.

[mrdta97]

@tateavery21 commercially yes and like he said without him becomming a success hip hop probly dosent become as accepted as it did but if your saying that he was one of the most talented artists lyrically or musically of all time then no, people tend to get ddefensive over artists they heard as a child and they tend to make people bigger iin there mind he was good for his time and he contributed to the birth of hip hop and rap but hes not one of the greatest hes a pioneer.

[rloco80]

@supremetechnique98 You know what, I actually checked out Rakim's site on wikipedia and the info said that he was born in January 28, 1968. It also said that the Paid N Full album was released in June of 1987 which would make Rakim 19 at the time. That's still pretty young and incredibley amazing for an emcee to spit lyrical rhymes the way he did at that age! Paid N Full is definitely one of my favorite Hip Hop albums of all time!!

[rloco80]

@tateavery21 That's cool... LL Cool J is a pioneer, legend and an icon in hip hop and I bump his music too....

[philscafe]

If we talk about contribution to the rap game since hip hop began don't even dare talk about Canibus. Its not about battles. Its about pioneers of the game we love called hip hop since 84 and 85 till present. Why cant people just appreciate each artist in his own right. KRS1 is the best at what he does. Rakim is the best at what he does. Kane is the best, Naz is the best, Kool G rap is the best, LL is the best. EPMD the best, KSolo the best If everybody was the same true hip hop would be boring.

[tateavery21]

@mrdta97 LL is aLL DAT.

[tateavery21]

@bloktv I agree