2-5 WAS PETER THE FIRST POPE ? - Debate -Martin -vs- Pacwa

A Debate on the John Ankerberg Show between Jesuit Mitchell Pacwa of EWTN and Dr. Walter Martin on the subject of whether Peter was the First Pope.

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[tymmy724]

@eljunior98 In Acts8 Philip went down to Samaria and "proclaimed to them the Christ." "When they believed Philip as he preached good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women." Remember that Philip wasn't an apostle yet he was baptizing people as they believed. --Just seems to be a lot of emphasis placed on believing the gospel verses entering some sort of training program in order to become a Christian. No disrespect intended.

[tymmy724]

@eljunior98 Jesus Christ taught a lot less than the entire NT--mostly believe in Jesus--that He is Lord (Adonai) in the flesh. But this was following a pattern established by God with Abram in Genesis 15:6, "And he (Abram) believed the Lord, and He counted it to him as righteousness." Paul tells us in rom 3:21-25 and on through chap 8 of "the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe"(vs 22) And they "are justified by His grace as a gift" (vs24).

[tymmy724]

@eljunior98 Friend, when Peter and Paul and others were preaching the gospel, I don't think that people became Christians by filling out some sort of application and submitting it to the Bishop of Rome for approval. Acts 4:4 "But many of those who had heard the word believed, and the number of the men came to about five thousand." When the jailer in Acts 16 asked Paul how to be saved, Paul answered, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved..." In rom 5 Paul says we have peace w/ God.

[eljunior98]

@tymmy724 U were right unitil ur statement about the NT being sufficient (ALL that is NEEDED) to be reconciled to God and ALL that is NEEDED. Jesus Christ and His Blessed Apostles NEVER taught that garbage b/c ur trying to be slick with it and NOT mention that ur arguing for Bible Alone and/or Faith Alone.

[sgal88]

@TheStyx44 Don't you do the same thing, lol.

[MementoMori384]

@loks1100 Saints are Alive

Matt 22:31-32 - And as for the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God, “I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob”? He is God not of the dead, but of the living.The holy people (Saints) who have gone before us are more alive than we are. As this verse says, God is the God of the living, not the dead; it makes it clear in naming Abraham, Isaac & Jacob as being alive.

[loks1100]

@lulutheladybug why would you pray to a women that has past rather then a God that is alive??

[10WiseVirgins]

You usurp Christ, who has His Chair of the King in His Church in Rome. The Pontiff is a Vicar of Christ. And you, the generation of vipers- will choose to rob Him.

Be pure in heart- and you will see the truth.

Until it-

You are in outer darkness!



[southernpreacher]

Wow this really made the Catholic arguments look utterly ridiculous even preposterous beyond belief. These video's are a nightmare for a Catholic.

[tymmy724]

Read and meditate on the New Testament for the rest of your life. The New Testament, which both scholars hold in high regard, is the oldest written revelation concerning Jesus' life on earth, His apostles, and the beginnings of His Church. The New Testament is sufficient for understanding what it takes to be reconciled to God. From a lay person's perspective, the pattern in Acts seems to be: preach the message; people believe the message; believers form churches.