Team Fortress 2 - Spy Gameplay After Cloak Update: pl_badwater

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Uploaded by on Dec 18, 2008

After some brief discussions with a few other Spy aficionados about the nature of whether or not the December cloak update overpowered the Spy, I got to thinking I would evaluate certain situations captured earlier in the week of my own gameplay in which the new cloak refill mechanic was used for both better as well as for worse.

I must concede to concerns about the cloak update being possibly detrimental to the play style of Spy; though I still disagree that it overpowers the Spy. Rather, after looking back and seeing myself pulling lazy decisions that I should have been more aware of at the time, I too now have concerns about whether or not the cloak refill capability encourages resourceful decision making for the Spy. It's easy, even if you're a dedicated and experienced Spy player, to let yourself lapse into a lazy style if you don't consciously think about it.

Certainly, the cloak update rightfully mitigates situations where the Spy is ganged up on; I think this is where the cloak update shines, and is where it should shine -- the Spy, never being a combat class, no longer has to be forced into a futile situation against five grenade-tossing, rocket shooting, flame throwing, needle flinging, bat swinging attackers swarming out of an unlucky blind corner looking for an easy, unchallenging seal-clubbing. However, as seen in this video in the bad example I set, you should use the cloak refill extremely conservatively in situations where you can otherwise probably handle your own; running for ammo boxes when you're not in the kind of immediate, certain, irreperable doom I just described should not be a habit for any Spy, new or otherwise.

tl;dr - I think the cloak update is fine overall, but all individual spies should be careful not to let themselves pick up bad habits from what you can do with such a now-easily-refillable cloak.

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  • @LordOgax I wish I could hate you bald

  • I never get ot be so good as a spy I try and try but it's soo hard and so easy for the others jsut shoot a teammate randomly and that's it but avoiding that random shooting is soo hard I always die after i try to kill someone or do kill someone

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  • if i play im going to be a spy though

    so i wont be killed by spies

    they look so annoying to have to fight

  • this game looks so fun

  • Lol I love how your team complains there's no one pushing the cart... Oh spies so useless

  • 1:25 yap :) 

  • lol at 8:10 when the guy says: "Pyro you should be spy checking." A little too late for that!

  • you play amazing, one of the best gameplays ever.

  • Lol fail heavy stab :3

  • gg bro gg

  • 5:04 sheer awesomeness.

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