Intellectual Honesty
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Personally I have not seen his video, but the problem of a test that convince an atheist is a false problem. An atheist could not be convinced by a evidence, because the atheist has already established his a priori conclusion.
therefore:
all are erroneous arguments
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the best evidence, indeed would be to ask God to make its presence felt, and open your heart for that.
Material evidence are not taken into account for an atheist.
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Geez- you're so smart. I'll have what that girl is drinking! So you're not pregnant? Or you are? I got lost. =)
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please log on to equip.org and search athiesm for smart clear insight
fools say in their heart their is no god-the beauty of creation proves satan is a liar
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please log on to equip.org and search athiesm for smart clear insight
fools say in their heart their is no god-the beauty
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@ApostateltsopA I know, I know... but it would be cool to watch them fail non the less, even if they don't fail epicly. For science (or for the LOLs... whichever the viewer appreciates more)!
Worst case scenario: LOLs and nothing more.
Best case scenario: We welcome former "magicians" into the "tribe" of skeptics, and use the video to promote skepticism.
Do think about it if you happen to meet them. I have a friend who claims to be "proper" astrologer, but we can't agree on the tests to do.
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Great video, but it saddens me that these realizations do not naturally occur to so many people.
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@boenrobot I don't spend much time with those friends these days, but every magical effect I recall leaves precious little in the way of evidence. I wouldn't matter though, if a skeptic is around it will make the magic stop working. Ever see the move, skeleton key? "It only works if you believe it..." Human perception is a fluid thing, I have found there is power in managing my own. If only because it keeps me moving when I might otherwise slack or shows opportunity instead of adversity.
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@ApostateltsopA "I had interestingly similar conversations with friends who believe they do magick."
Have you discussed with them the idea of testing their claim in a scientific, James Randi-ish fashion (well... as scientific as you can without requiring a budget and a large team)? Maybe even film it and upload it? If they were serious enough about it, I'm sure they'll agree to it. Tell them your intention is to help them win Randi's million dollars :-P .
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One of the better rebuttals I have heard or read in recent memory, thank you. I also appreciate (and advocate) the feminist theory you employed by using your own pregnancy as an example. Brilliant, though probably lost on most theists, as they tend to be more right wing/patriarchal.
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Beautiful rigour, beautiful work.
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A well structured argument providing solid reasoning. Well done :)
askegg 7 months ago 13
@askegg Thank you!
LJonYT 7 months ago
I hate it when people assume that the reason I don't believe in God is because I don't want to believe.
DarkMatter2525 1 year ago 21
@DarkMatter2525 Yeah, it's kind of evasive isn't it? As though your inner thoughts can be dictated my someone else. And that's before even getting into the inaccuracy of it.
LJonYT 1 year ago 6
@LJonYT I think that when someone makes this claim they are more often illustrating a blind spot in their perception than deliberately being dishonest or deceptive. They believe, and they have a set of memories filed as experiences which validate belief, and they can not conceive of anyone interpreting those experiences differently. I had interestingly similar conversations with friends who believe they do magick. The minds ability to dictate it's own perception is frightening and powerful.
ApostateltsopA 5 months ago
@ApostateltsopA I tend to agree with you on that.
LJonYT 5 months ago