Investigators report into Dorrigo Pt2

This report (2) of (2) was carried out by the ABC in 1989 reporting on the shambles that had become the Dorrigo Railway Museum. It is in particular very critical of one Mr. Keith Jones - and with good reason. Anyone involved with NSW rail Preservation today should know the contents of this report so they can prevent it happening to their own groups.

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[zordmaker]

Footnote : NSW Railcorp is in the throws of releasing another 100 or so heritage rail items for disposal. No doubt a large amount will find their way north. Jones was noted as present at the EOI meeting last Friday.

[DisposableName]

Dorrigo.

Is small town near Sydney in Australia, yes ?

What was the outcome ??

Many years have passed now since this report, so do you have a rail museum there now or was it all too late to follow the audit trail and recover the situation and finances.

Is a farming area according to a different upload that I saw, so is people there still or did town die when the tourist rail museum failed.

Am curious about such as this things.

[zordmaker]

Nowhere near Sydney, about 9 hours away.

Town survived the fallout.

Not much has changed in 20 years, Jones is still collecting, trains are still not running. I think the strategy now is to wait for Jones to die. It can't be that far off.

Admittedly the collection (however deteriorated) is certainly unique in the world and one day will probably form the basis of a thriving museum. But I doubt anyone alive today will last long enough to see it.

[einsteinisgreat]

In 1989 it was 2 years ago. Now (2010) its 23 years ago. What a tragedy!

[evldvl1]

@faulcon1 BTW I've seen your home page and it's more then obvious you're well skilled on the subject of trains and I wouldn't argue the point with you on a subject you clearly have more knowledge then I EVER will.If Jones contributors were as well armed as you seem to be with knowledge he would probably not got a $.Some people still beleive in taking a man on his word and sealing it with a handshake.PITY that.They shouldn't be thought of as fools rather sympathy for dealing with the real world.

[evldvl1]

@faulcon1 Is that a fact?Nothing to do with what we were talking about.Bud some ppl aren't as smart as you so it would seem so they TRUST what is being said to them is correct by the people involved that SHOULD know and have all the facts you are quoting.Those people come from all walks of life with huge variants of expertise and some are not capable of turning on a computer or doing those checks because it's NOT their field of expertise AND thats's where trust comes in.Not fools but victims.

[faulcon1]

@evldvl1 You obviously don't know what ITSRR stands for. Independent Train Safety Rail Regulator. If you don't have their accreditation, you don't operate. At the other end of the line the Glenreagh Mountain Railway didn't have ITSRR accreditation and ITSRR came in and shut them down. If you work with ITSRR to achieve accreditation they will help you to achieve it. But if you ignore ITSRR then they'll use the full force of the law to shut you down until you agree to do it their way.

[Cinesound01]

@zordmaker But why can't the NSW SRA or the NSWGR order him to reside the Leadership of the group and then create a taskforce to reform the group.

I am going to telephone the NSW Governemnt or the SRA to get this plan going because of this dictator type man; a Town is suffering

[evldvl1]

Didn't think so!!

[evldvl1]

Righto so lets get this right,if one of your family or friends wanted you to contribute money to a scheme like this would you do it un-conditionally if they gave you a believable sell?

[faulcon1]

@evldvl1 I trust family and friends, but when putting large amounts of money into projects such as this I'd want to know what the outcome is going to be. You don't know me and I don't know you BUT don't say that I don't TRUST ANYONE. Yes Jones is an asshole who conned and continues to con people out of money. I would want to see the accreditation from ITSRR and the office of rail heritage before I'd contribute money to the project.

[evldvl1]

@faulcon1 I don't think you'd trust ANYONE!However these ppl trusted Jones and some trusted him as a "friend" and were "loyal" friends.I for one trust certain ppl and would un-conditionally do exactly the same as these ppl and they would count among my family and friends.Hindsight is 20/20 vision bud and it's easy to criticise with hindsight.Jones is the asshole so direct some criticism toward him.

[faulcon1]

@evldvl1 I myself would NEVER TRUST one person who has total and only control over where the money is spent. On that program they were crying foul and it's all their own fault. They didn't HAVE to put their money into his pocket, they did it willingly. It seems that Keith Jones has out smarted the lot of them. There is a phrase "a fool and his money are soon parted"