CNN Saddleback Debate: danger mixing religion & politics

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The Saddleback "church" charged $500 for tickets to the debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMJBK0m1Dt4

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/church-tickets-event-2125034-ticket-burger

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[broadcastmyass4u]

you are an idiot if you don't think that religions were created to control people. It's fine if you need this confort blanket, just don't throw it at me, and especially your kids! Let your kids make there mind up about what they want to believe. i see it everyday and i get it, you are just like the kid that's afraid of the closet monster and you never learn to grow some balls and go look and see that there was no gay monster hiding in your closet, it was just YOU hiding from the truth!

[litefogg]

The Government isn't here to save your soul. It's here to save your butt. Although morality is very important, Religion should only factor in, at the poles and not in the campaign. Government and Religion must only co-exist and never merge. I am not atheist and take my faith extremely serious.

[rikskelton138]

organized religion is a shame. They are ripping you off. Why ask for money, why give donations when you can worship at home.

[mulliganville]

That is not the original Saddleback Tent...get your facts straight. The tent is Overdrive, a venue on the Saddleback campus. That was not a fund raiser, but the Overdrive venue...just like that every Sunday.

Saddleback has done more for the poor than probably any other church I know of.  The civil forum was not Rick's idea, but that of the candidates. Take your gripe to the candidates...

[Ralphdraw3]

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[lutonduke]

1) I did, mostly for class projects, but it doesn't fit within the data limit of youtube. =)

2) That's interesting + horrible, and it's the exact opposite of what Christianity is supposed to be [I think]. =( I have many Christian friends over here from NZ, Australia, but some are American and are very nice ^^

3) Thank you for the correct information, I used the archive from OCvote, and my result of 55 percent was from the 2000 gen, but I went back and saw that 2004 was 60% Wow ^^

[Ralphdraw3]

BTW you are wrong about Orange County - it is overwhelming Republican:

It voted Republican in the last 5 presidential elections

1988 Bush41

1992 Bush41

1996 Dole

2000 Bush 43

2004 Bush 43

Based on this record of Orange County voters, Saddleback Church is probably, at the least, 60% Republican; more likely - because it is an evangelical church - 75% to 80% Republican and conservative.

:)

[Ralphdraw3]

1) ANY video - but make it intelligent

2) Most of the Christians here are nasty and awful (most of them, particularly those in the South and are white) -

they like war and violence

they support torture

they hate foreigners (Mexicans esp.) and African Americans

they hate homosexuals

they couldn't care less about the poor..

:)

you'd be surprised at how awful they are :)

[lutonduke]

1 - Make any sort of video? =)

2 - I've done it on several occasion for a University report over here, and they were pretty nice about it. You'd be surprise at how nice some Christians are.

3 - I doubt everyone who adhere to the Christian religion all vote the same way, I don't think that can happen to a church of 23,000. Yes, OC is wealthy, and about 50% are Reps. Now, are these 50 saddleback members? Quite Possibly. Are there Democrats who goes to saddleback? Quite Possibly =)

[Ralphdraw3]

1 - make your video, make it intelligent too

2 - asking the "church" is not really possible

3 - my guess is that most of Saddleback's congregation supported the war in Iraq and voted for George Bush (probably twice - 2000 and 2004), because, as you correctly point out, Orange County is wealthy/rich and Republican.