The Problem of Evil | Atheist Experience
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@jmhjmh5 what sons get incinerated for being themselves?
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@Sqirril apparently something about free will, if i could make my child at least be a reasonable person when i know they are going to be no good and hurt people i would.
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@Sqirril Because he wanted people to have 'free will' which of course means doing 'what you want' rather than 'for a reason.' Because people do things randomly without any reason, right? No, every action has a cause, and even if people were random, they would have no control over their actions. Free will is an oxymoron, and if there is a god he is to blame for setting the universe in motion, upon which every event depends.
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The God of this discussion values freedom over evil. Why is freedom more important than evil?
By the way - what freedom? We don't get to choose when we die. We don't get to decide where we are born. We don't get to choose our genetics. We don't get to choose our parents, Etc, Etc. This just indicates that god is not working in our (humans) best interests because it doesn't share our value system.
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Great show. First time I've seen a video from your organization. Thanks for the breath of fresh air. It was a great change from a lot of the crap on you tube these days to hear someone one with actuall intelligence and reason.
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@PullThePlugOnFaith answer (C) he doesn't exist is the right one!
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men much smarter than i have tackled this question and have yet to present a decent argument to justify God's inaction. i don't see anyone in the near future reconciling God and the existence evil.
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FREE WILL! FREE WILL! FREE WILL! the theist screams about the problem of evil.
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@coltharpnicholas Well I am really trying to see your arguement here but I just can't logically it doesn't make sense. Your arguement about the holocaust is actually working on my side, because your right it wouldn't have stopped evil, man is evil. There is no limit to your free will only containment, you are limited to what you can do, but free will is choosing what you will and will not do. You can kill me but it's against your morals, the law, Bible, and God. Simple...
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@samuellis So God removed evil but not completely, eh? Stopping the Holocaust would have done that. It wouldn't get rid of all evil, but it would have been nice.
What I'm saying is that saying God doesn't "limit" our free will is no excuse. He already limits our free will. For example, I cannot kill you. If God put me in a position where I knew who you were, I could kill you. Putting me in a position where I don't is a limitation on my free will.
No one has ever been able to really refute the problem of evil, it's been thousands of years yet they can't! There is no way out, it's a) God is evil b) He is not all-powerfull c) He doen't even exist!
END OF STORY!
PullThePlugOnFaith 2 years ago 45
Why not just fix people and make them not evil.
Sqirril 2 years ago 45