Chris Stigall with Bishop Finn on Obama & Catholic Voting

I'm sorry I did not respond sooner. I haven't been on youtube for a bit.

The Church had concordats with a dozen+ countries at the time, seeking to protect the innocent, not confirm evil. Your quoting of the Cardinal would be tempered with a couple pertinent facts about him: he was a critic of Hitler's government and his life was often in danger because of this. He was respected by Jews who said:
"we will never forget how you...saved thousands of Jewish persons from terror and lethal violence."

Furthermore, Pope Pius XII was not inactive: In 1937 he denounced both antisemitism and Hitler and had his work read in the parishes of Germany. Through the course of the war, the Vatican used buildings such as monasteries to shelter Jews from danger. Fake baptismal records were issued, and these measures saved many, many lives. Pius XII was considered a "righteous gentile" by many for his efforts, and only recently have ideologically driven experts sought to besmirch his character.

I'm tired of listening to these religious leaders on their pick and choose topics to persuade the flock on how to vote or think....what about giving to the poor? war crimes? loving the sinner? corporate greed?...I could go on....

The numbers of people killed through abortion completely eclipse the numbers of those killed through war crimes.

Besides, there's the danger from the intellectual crime of denying humanity to a certain group of people.

Which actions of Nazi Germany do you consider worse: that they invaded several nations in Europe, or that they worked to kill off a handful of groups of people?

That's the horror we feel against abortion.

The church is just as much against war and the Death penalty as it is abortion. So how can catholics have voted for John McCain?

There can never be a legitimate reason to kill a baby. Wars can sometimes be legitimate. The legitimacy of the death penalty is unclear, but it has not always and everywhere condemned as unjustified.

What you just typed is a stunning example of pure bullshit. I'd like to know where you get your information. The Catholic Church makes no distinction between killing a condemned man and killing a fetus. So I would really like to know how you come to that conclusion. My guess is that it makes you feel better about yourself. The truth is, any real Christian could not have voted period in the election.

I'm sorry that you feel it necessary to attack my character. I hope you will dispassionately re-read my comment and notice I did not say anything about voting, as I was addressing your comparing of the evil of abortion with the death penalty. As you no doubt know, abortion is intrinsically evil. It can never be legitimate. As for the death penalty, more in a moment...

... The Catechism states:

"The traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude, presupposing full ascertainment of the identity and responsibility of the offender, recourse to the death penalty, when this is the only practicable way to defend the lives of human beings effectively against the aggressor."(CCC 2267)

The Church has not condemned capital punishment as intrinsically wrong, though it also says "cases of absolute necessity...are very rare, if not practically non-existent" .

for IronSabine

You are speaking about that BABIES WITH AIDS who born from people who make sex without using preservative like Catholic Church wants??