Why Aren't Libertarians More Vegetarian?

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[JaysThoughts]

Sharp enunciation doesn't make your point more valid. ‎"All feel pain, fear, joy, etc." Verify this. If you can manage to somehow prove what every other animal feels and their range of possible emotions and emotional depth, wow, I definitely concede. Otherwise it's an argument from assumption.. and so, meat.

[Veganomante]

@TheAtheistFuture But you don't (I hope). Less than moral people are not the issue here, but values WE hold. If, say, I don't give a shit about humans, then I'm not going to be persuaded into considering the rights of nonhumans. But if you already believe that babies deserve equal consideration, that rebukes the supposed argument from rationality.

[PHEnhoj85]

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[TheAtheistFuture]

@Veganomante I just don't see the harm in killing animals for meat, if given a good life, well fed and well treated, and a quick and pain free death. And since the animals tend to be slaughtered in batches there won't be any one left to grieve, and they've had a good life. You propose mass extinction, and being shredded to pieces in the wild for all farmed animals. Or do you expect us to continue to care for them and put them in special ex farmed animal homes.

[TheAtheistFuture]

@Veganomante Amorality or Immorality. What's immoral about eating a dead human? Other than it disturbing the family? When I die I hope to be fed on by animals and before that my organs donated to any one that could possibly make use of them. Ofc I have an established prejudice against other animals, i can't stand ideologies that want to ignore the fact that we are animals instead of trying to work with that. The only immorality with eating meat is the way we treat the animal during life, badly.

[Veganomante]

@TheAtheistFuture Excuse me? Please, I would like for you to take a look at a film called Earthlings and see how millions of animals die yearly. You may also find other documentaries such as The Cove (from Japan), Mataderos (from Spain) and the latest undercover investigation in Britain performed by Animal Equality at some Norfolk farm

[Veganomante]

@Sebajstard If you ask me, it is as OK as eating a human that died by natural causes (ethically speaking). Of course, in the case of the human, you consider what the family would think if you ate the diseased. But that doesn't change the underlying amorality of the act of doing something to someone that already doesn't feel a thing.

[Veganomante]

@TheAtheistFuture Since when the description 'all life dies' becomes the prescription 'therefore, it's OK to kill'? Sounds suspiciously close to deriving an ought from an is. The underlying principle that let us make that jump is an already established prejudice (or discrmination, if you will) against other animals. You already think they are less and therefore you think it only applies to them. Because to humans it doesn't apply, right?

[Veganomante]

@alexkelly55 'Do some research' LOL