Language and Governance

They're both emergent.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• order
• society
• speech
• rules
• grammar
• hypercorrection
• force
• state
• government
• monopoly
• violence
• drugs
• weed
• world
• cannabis
• word
• talk
• organization
• linguistics
• politics
• social
• change
• evolution

[Esoparagon]

This is great. You know exactly what you are talking about with language and it's kind of hard to get across to most people. lol

[graaaaaagh]

@Esoparagon Thanks man. Yeah, people tend to get so caught up in what's 'correct'.

[fountainherz]

I'm impressed, your material reminds me a lot of fringeelements' (which is a good thing) back when he was more anti-state and econ-focused as opposed to race-oriented. I wish he'd go back to observations of econ and the state.

How did you find me? And I think you should enable channel comments.

[graaaaaagh]

@McPrfctday Even though it sounds stupid, people are still understood when they say it, due to context, and so its use spreads - it's almost an idiom.

A similar thing happens in French, in fact: the phrase "Fais gaffe" is very common, and it literally means "make mistake". But when you tell someone "Fais gaffe", it actually means the opposite - "be careful" or "don't mess up".

[Esoparagon]

Yeah, alliance française tries to defines 'proper French words' for the English words like 'email' that enter the French language. No one uses them. lol

[graaaaaagh]

@DoctorCapitalist He's not really a racist - people need to get that. He's just an IQ hereditarian. I do agree that his econ stuff is more important (and slightly more interesting) than his race/IQ stuff.

[DoctorCapitalist]

@fountainherz Yeah I like Fringeelements but his racism makes me cringe.

[sticksquash]

@fountainherz I think he should do both in my opinion. But oh well, can't both get what we want.  :(

[graaaaaagh]

@niriop I've always found Hegel pretty obscure. I've read a lot more about him, and a lot more from people he's influenced, than from Hegel himself.

And I know that getting rid of the state isn't really the underlying issue; the evolution of human society past arbitrary authority, egalitarianism, and democracy is, I'd say, of central importance. False notions of "expertise", "equality", and "fairness" are what I'm really starting to look into, and what I want to make more videos about.

[niriop]

@graaaaaagh Partly yes, but there's just so much to take into account that Molyneux soils himself when he tries to pin society's problems almost entirely on people being told to go to their rooms when they were six (I'm exaggerating for comedic effect, but thats the jist of it).

I think you also need to stop talking about the "elimination of the state", and more about the evolution of human society as a whole; tell me, have you read much Hegel?

[graaaaaagh]

@niriop As for slavery and the state, I just meant that as one social structure that was seen as basic and unquestionable was abolished, so can another one. But yes, once you get into how they work(ed) and the role they play(ed), then they're not so easy to compare.

And I agree with you that elimination of the state will be gradual - but it won't take forever. I'd like to know, what specifically you think has to happen - do you think it's got a lot to do with childrearing, as Molyneux says?