pt. 2 The Book of Mormon and New World DNA

This is a clip from a video that has recently been released by FAIR (Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research) which answers the DNA controversy raised by critics of the Church.
In this video, many scholars and geneticists were interviewed as they discuss the issue of DNA and The Book of Mormon.
This clip discusses:

*Populating the Americas through the Bering strait only???

*Major loss of DNA in the Americas during the conquest

*Loss of DNA through procreation

*DNA losses in Jerusalem

*Cohen haplotype and the Lemba

The full-length video, which is 1 hour and 20 minutes long, can be purchased at the FAIR bookstore here:
http://store.fairlds.org/prod/p1893036073.html
for $13.00

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[2ool8]

Has your work survived the peer review process outside of the LDS community?

[fairldsorg]

These scholars are just going over the basics of population genetics, something the critics ignored. So yes, it is VERY reveiwed.

[canadianbacon007]

It's ironic how one the organizations who is responsible for so much geneology, and the literal gathering of Israel through both spirtitual and scriptual inspiration is now being buffeted by those who have no literal reference point other than their own speculation. It's deja vu all over again. IE the potter"s clay. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[vicki68]

It was Missouri, not Alabama. The truth is, whether it was in Missouri or not, there is no way to prove where it actually was. People want to place it in the "old world," but before the flood, the world looked a lot different than it does today. The Garden of Eden could have been on any continent, but very few are able to open their minds enough to grasp that concept. Everyone wants to place the garden where the rest of post-flood history took place. We will all know someday.

[jzwillows]

Also the accepted DNA model timeline for man is much longer than the “timeline” in the Bible, which has Adam’s fall ~6000 years ago. The Biblical timeline mandates development of the races (& changing of DNA) at a much quicker rate; in fact the DNA model is based on the great misunderstanding that DNA is very stable. These anti-LDS DNA “experts” shouldn’t have determined their knowledge was perfect. Further discoveries in epigenetics will humble them.

[jzwillows]

If Indians being related to Israel is disproven by no DNA evidence, then lack of DNA linking Israel to many nations proves the lost tribes are extinct, thus the latter-day predictions concerning them are false; also the predictions that Joseph would be many nations is obviously false, thus the Bible is false. However, since DNA manipulation disproves Adam & Eve it doesn't matter. The alternative is that the scriptures are true & these anti LDS experts' interpretation of DNA isn't perfect.

[TheSkepticChristian]

@MrOzGuitar Yea, and also my educated hypothesis is that the nephites influenced the pre-classic mayas. That's why they turned into Classic mayas.

[fairldsorg]

@MrOzGuitar The Lehites numbered less than 30 people when they arrived in the Americas. It would be near impossible to see a shift in an already established civilization with such a small infusion of people.

[MrOzGuitar]

@TheSkepticChristian From what I have read, Mayan culture was considered established circa 1800 B.C. The Book of Mormon reports Lehi(excuse me if im wrong), in the new world circa 559 b.c. Wouldnt you see a major cultural shift in the mayans? New technologies, new customs? The next major change in mayan culture is not reported until 250 A.D. There has been a search for middle eastern D.N.A, and mayan and native americans are close to Russian D.N.A, than middle eastern..

[TheSkepticChristian]

@MrOzGuitar BoM people are believed to have been among the mayas (by scholars). I am not saying that the BoM people were all the mayas, but they were among them.

[TheSkepticChristian]

@MrOzGuitar Yes scholars. I am not aware of a serious search for middle east DNA in the indians. BoM people were just some of the indians, not all indians. However, I think ancient European DNA has been found in Native americans, many people were here before columbus, egyptians, japaense, africans. Anyways, maybe someday there will be a serious experiments to search for Middle east DNA in the indians.

[MrOzGuitar]

@fairldsorg scholars? all ive heard is discussion on the validity of DNA...and we already have discovered that it just doesnt affect what we/you are looking for. Perfect example of starting from the conclusion, and working backwards to attempt to justify it.

[GmaM11]

Samples of population have always been miniscule. For instance political polls may only sample 2000 people nationwide, yet these polls end up being surprisingly accurate. So, if there were a DNA sample of 2000 people sampled in central america, that would be a robust sampling. So why is it that DNA evidence of Hebraic DNA have been found all over Africa?

[omiolo]

"You and I know that many [threats] to happiness are wrong because they are contrary to God's will," he said. Yet they are championed by persuasive people possessing more ability than morality, more knowledge than wisdom. Their convenient rationalization provides self-consoling justification.