Causation and Infinite Regress

Causation and Infinite Regress. Randall Niles responds to the question, "Who Created God?" with a look at Thomas Aquinas and the necessity for a First Cause.

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Education

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• Causation
• Origins
• Universe
• Cosmos
• Infinite
• Regress
• Thomas
• Aquinas
• Randall
• Niles

[KatieTaylor24]

I appreciate that you observe multiple arguments and don't just research those in favor of your stance. It's the healthy way to approach this. I think you stated things fairly and logically, without imposing your belief on others. I lean towards deism. I love that you are not preaching, just making us think.

[dkthg]

In my opinion the "uncaused cause" is the universe itself.

[suthezcian]

The universe could be cyclic - probably is. A naturalist doesn't assume an uncaused cause. They simply say they don't know yet, which is a reasonable response.

[Requiemxtoxinnocence]

What if there is a dimension outside of god and eternity? 

[40gabe]

I do not agree that there was an uncaused cause. The only logical model that I can figure is this; an infinite universe with an inherent quantum. To my thinking, it is the quantum that is the creative principle, the logos if you will. Outside of magic, there is no logical model for a universe to come into being either from a will-power (god), or a singularity (big-bang). Infinity with an inherent quanta is the only logical model I can understand. What do you think?

[Bakmoon]

@caruya But you claim that infinite regress is physicaly impossible, so I am asking you to give me a demonstration of that from physics. You are just begging the question, backing up your claim by just saying "It has to come from somewhere" which isn't precise enough for me to respond to. By that do you mean that ultimately matter must derive from non-matter?

[caruya]

@Bakmoon Dude you are just dragging the question back to physiques, maths, biology etc. aka science. That is logic too as well no doubt. But as long as you think "inside" matter and or existence of something that is without an explanation for its cause even if it's just pure absolute void aka singularity, It cannot go back forever because there's no initial cause, which conflicts the brain cells of the even very most stupid person in the world. The question is pure philosophical and theological.

[Bakmoon]

@caruya What do you mean matter has to come from somewhere which is not matter itself? ? It seems to me that such a thing would violate the conservation of mass. Can you demonstrate that the laws of physics demand such a thing?

[caruya]

@Bakmoon Because it is still under the issue of existence. Even thought there would be some "infinite regress" which does not make sense by itself. Matter had to come from somewhere, which is not matter itself. Otherwise I raises again the question, where it came from? get it? It is not logical to begin with that matter came from absolutely "nowhere". So unless that "nowhere" did not was the cause, that is something outside matter. Existence from absolutely nothing is not logical.

[Bakmoon]

@caruya Could you please respond? What's wrong with an infinite regress?