So-called "unintelligent design," part 1

People often attempt to dismiss God's existence by pointing out examples of supposedly unintelligent design. "Surely an intelligent God would have done a much better design job!" they declare.

Is this a reasonable objection to the notion of intelligent design, though? In this two-part video, I discuss multiple reasons why this objection does not hold water.

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Education

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• apologetics
• christianity
• theism
• intelligent
• design

[grammastola]

@lasertuber, your objection is simply irrelevant. The cosmic constants must be fine-tuned to an incredible degree in order for life to exist ANYWHERE. The fact that life exists anywhere at all is a testimony to this incredible fine-tuning.

Furthermore, your objection assumes that a cosmic designer MUST allow for life to exist in more parts of the universe. Quite frankly, there is no reason to believe that this must necessarily be so.

[arifreeman]

Cosmic fine tuning?

This seems to me to be a somewhat biased view.

Are the parameters of the universe mutable? - Not necessarily.

If they are, did God set them? - Not necessarily (they could be ordered by natural systems).

You are trying too hard to fit God into the equation and ignoring many of the real questions.

I am enjoying your videos because you try to be fair minded. I just disagree with some of your arguments.

[grammastola]

I addressed your objections in my various videos and the comments sections thereof. You suggest that the cosmic parameters may not be mutable. However, there is no evidence to support that view. Science provides NO reason to believe that the parameters values could not have been different.

As I explained, this is well established among physicists, which is precisely why they resort to the anthropic principle as alternative explanations (which fails for reasons that I explained).

[grammastola]

BTW, I find it interesting that you object to this view on the grounds that it is "biased." It seems to me that any attempt to suggest that the parameters are immutable is itself a biased objection -- especially since there is no evidence to support it.

Some say, "Well, maybe there's a physical law which requires that the parameters be as they are." As I explained in another video though, there is no evidence for such a law -- and even so, one would have to ask why THIS law and not some other.

[shangobah]

You are going about it backwards. Instead of coming to a conclusion and trying to find some things that support your assumptions, you should gather all the evidence and see what conclusions they lead to.

[grammastola]

You're assuming that I started with the conclusion and worked backwards to justfy it. That's simply incorrect.

Moreover, as I already stated, this video simply addresses a specific objection to ID. It is not meant to provide a positive defense of ID, as that would have to be covered in additional videos. One can only cover so much within ten minutes or so.

[patrox247]

Great video post! You make some great points

[jarbon5]

Again, great video:)

[grammastola]

@azkeyz With all due respect, your remarks are not very coherent.

There's no easy way to say this, but... if you want to be understood, then please try stating your case clearly and succinctly. Avoid jargon, and please avoid making blanket without first substantiating them.

[ankarata]

Wether we call him god, dieu or Allah his characteristics do not change. So if those people say that there are imperfections in design (and they are there) it does not say the designer is imperfect, but the designer has put us on trial with those imperfections like disease etcetera.

After all, nothing is perfect but the perfect. I hope you get my point.

[ankarata]

Wether we call him god, dieu or Allah his characteristics do not change. So if those people say that there are imperfections in design (and they are there) it does not say the designer is imperfect, but the designer has put us on trial with those imperfections like disease etcetera.

After all, nothing is perfect but the perfect. I hope you get my point.

[ankarata]

It doesn't even say i have more money or not. So all the design in the whole universe is the ultimum of design that exists, and the minimum of that designer is at the ultimum of what exists. And since that designer is also the creator of the universe, his power, intelligence, might, mercyfullness and all his 99 characters exceed the power, intelligence, might mercyfulness etc. that exists in the universe. Therefor the intelligent designer, the creator the one is absolute in his characters.

[ankarata]

I am sorry my friend, my english language is not good enough to understand everything you say. Though, I can tell you something you will find interesting. You said that the design reffers to a designer. I agree with that, but I want to add that that designer has absolute designing abillities. Why? Well for example: I give you a hundred dollars, it means that I at least posess hundred dollars...