Bruckner selbst konnte bevor er starb noch ein Drittel dieses großartigen Satzes vollenden. Seine Pläne für den Rest dieses Satzes konnten Wissenschaftler anhand von Skizzen rekonstruieren.
@pega17pl Bruckner worked one and a half year on the finale, how can you say there wasn´t any more he had to say?
btw1: Bruckner was dying while writing this symphony. I don´t mind if the last movement sounds not as lively as the other parts of the 9th, because he was almost dead when he composed this music.
btw2: It was Bruckner´s own wish to play the Te Deum in the case he shouldn´t be able to finish the finale. Do you find yourself very respectful calling that a bad habit?
@pega17pl Bruckner was insistent, right up to the end of his life, that this symphony should be concluded by a finale. New material has been discovered since this particular version of the finale, which has allowed a much better version to be constructed. I do recommend the 2005 version of the coda over this one; it is orders of magnitude greater, and truly does justice to the momentum built over the preceding movements.
@Tobias15111985 - you are right! by ending Adagio all is said what Bruckner wanted to say - after last chords fade away you "hear" there is no more, nothing is missing - seems there are still peoples without any respect to Bruckner knowing what he had to compose...
btw1: to say "music" at above clip is Bruckner means insulting him
btw2: another bad habit playing his great Te Deum as "4th movement"
I will however recommend the Wildner recording on this. He takes this section a lot faster than this, so that it is as if one has just sloughed one's mortal diseased coil and is a freed youthful soul ready to face eternity. If one looks at the movement in this light, if movement 1 is anguish, movement 2 terror and anger, movement 3 acceptance and death, then this movement is resurrection.
@alvinkuo777 the more I listen to this movement, the more I agree with you on that. It is truly a brilliant work and a very fitting conclusion to the 9th Symphony!
@6corax9 Schmarrn. Sie würden gut daran tun, den kurzen Quellenbericht im Booklet dieser Aufnahme bzw. den ausführlichen zur Revision 2006 zu lesen. Das Hauptmakel dieser Ergänzungen ist dass sie sich zu nahe an die vorhergegangenen Bruckner-Finali anlehnen und damit dem visionären Charakter des vorhandenen Materials nicht gerecht werden.
@007strauss Kurt Eichhorn conducts the Bruckner Orchestra Linz, the other symphonies he recorded with that orchestra (2, 5 through 8) are perhaps the best digital versions available.
brass at 8:00 remind me of some favourite theme or line from some other work... anyone know what i mean? is it beethoven or smth?
littleschlemiel 2 weeks ago
@pega17pl Bruckner worked one and a half year on the finale, how can you say there wasn´t any more he had to say?
btw1: Bruckner was dying while writing this symphony. I don´t mind if the last movement sounds not as lively as the other parts of the 9th, because he was almost dead when he composed this music.
btw2: It was Bruckner´s own wish to play the Te Deum in the case he shouldn´t be able to finish the finale. Do you find yourself very respectful calling that a bad habit?
MegaStubby 3 months ago
@pega17pl Bruckner was insistent, right up to the end of his life, that this symphony should be concluded by a finale. New material has been discovered since this particular version of the finale, which has allowed a much better version to be constructed. I do recommend the 2005 version of the coda over this one; it is orders of magnitude greater, and truly does justice to the momentum built over the preceding movements.
jonathanaconway 4 months ago
@Tobias15111985 - you are right! by ending Adagio all is said what Bruckner wanted to say - after last chords fade away you "hear" there is no more, nothing is missing - seems there are still peoples without any respect to Bruckner knowing what he had to compose...
btw1: to say "music" at above clip is Bruckner means insulting him
btw2: another bad habit playing his great Te Deum as "4th movement"
pega17pl 6 months ago
Can you reup this? Ver loud clicks. Soryy 4 my english.
georgeshogo 7 months ago
I will however recommend the Wildner recording on this. He takes this section a lot faster than this, so that it is as if one has just sloughed one's mortal diseased coil and is a freed youthful soul ready to face eternity. If one looks at the movement in this light, if movement 1 is anguish, movement 2 terror and anger, movement 3 acceptance and death, then this movement is resurrection.
sjlevine34 8 months ago
@alvinkuo777 the more I listen to this movement, the more I agree with you on that. It is truly a brilliant work and a very fitting conclusion to the 9th Symphony!
sjlevine34 8 months ago
@6corax9 Schmarrn. Sie würden gut daran tun, den kurzen Quellenbericht im Booklet dieser Aufnahme bzw. den ausführlichen zur Revision 2006 zu lesen. Das Hauptmakel dieser Ergänzungen ist dass sie sich zu nahe an die vorhergegangenen Bruckner-Finali anlehnen und damit dem visionären Charakter des vorhandenen Materials nicht gerecht werden.
Nachtmarchen 1 year ago
@007strauss Kurt Eichhorn conducts the Bruckner Orchestra Linz, the other symphonies he recorded with that orchestra (2, 5 through 8) are perhaps the best digital versions available.
Nachtmarchen 1 year ago
Ich weiß nicht was ich davon halten soll. Irgendwie ist nach dem Adagio alles gesagt, was uns Bruckner sagen wollte.
Tobias15111985 1 year ago