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A magnificently menacing and moody tune.... Damn I wish I could play bass like Peter Hook!
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@lawrence096 But false things can look great and/or sound great sometimes. Like a woman with a 'beat' face. :) I love the music playing even more that Ian's singing but Martin Hamnett did a good job with the producing. The studio 'clean up' makes the artist(s) sound larger than life and that's where the beauty is, but that doesn't mean that the artist(s) have no real talent or substance at all.
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@jrmetmoi overproduced is false, true beauty is not perfection, joy division's style was that they were a raw band with imperfections and thats why so many people love them
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@lawrence096 Overproduced is beauty, true beaty. Vive l'artifice.
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@jrmetmoi thats bullcrap, studio sounds fake and overproduced, you cant capure the energy of a live performance in a studio recording
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@Neonman78 Another aspect of JD that accounts for their dark mystique is Ian Curtis himself. Here's a guy who wrote a tragic song about a girl who died of an epileptic seizure. Ian later is diagnosed with having the same ailment. He dances on stage like a person wrestling with the disease. And just before the band is about to make it big, Ian kills himself out of guilt for destroying his marriage coupled with the fear of looking like a freak on stage. This is Greek level tragedy.
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@HMG5588 I've heard some of them and I agree, but they sound like an exploding version of JD because of their intensity. One other band influenced by JD is Former Ghosts, who are like a goth-electronic version of them, in some ways. This is why JD, although hugely original, are also hugely influential so it's no wonder there's music out there that sounds so similar (of course not the exact same, but some bands certainly wear their influences on their sleeves).
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@Neonman78 The Walkmen are more of a tragic love story or lost individual band in the vein of great song writers like Roy Orbison or Neil Diamond. Just listen to "Blue As Your Blood", "The Blue Route", "I Lost You", "Lisbon", or "Donde Esta La Playa". These songs are GENIUS... and on the same level of genius as those songs by Joy Division... in my humble opinion at least.
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@HMG5588 They're very good, but not hugely similar to Joy Division. I think that though no bands sound exactly like them, the bands that I mentioned (Editors, Interpol) have certainly been influenced by Joy Division -- you can tell just from listening to their music.
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@Neonman78 Actually, my favorite band right now is The Walkmen. The music is retro early 60s and delivered with great lyrics, story lines, innocence, and intensity. Very few bands reach that level of creative genius.
Excellent! Genius! Who makes music like this these day? NO ONE!!!
HMG5588 1 year ago 16
I always prefer the studio version of ANY song in the world I've ever liked because in the studio it's been properly perfected and MASTERED and that's why it sounds so good. This is why I even get disappointed with live stuff sometimes no matter who's doing it, and I've only ever met one other person who agrees with me on this point. LOL
jrmetmoi 1 year ago 8