UVic Abortion Debate Stephanie's Rebuttal Pt. 1

This is the second debate that took place on October 21st, 2009 at UVic. The room was overflowing for the first debate so a second one was held to fit everyone. Stephanie Gray was debating for the pro-life stance and Professor Eike Kluge was debating against her (he said he didn't represent anyone, but found the lack of anyone willing to debate appauling so he stepped in). The format of the debate was 20 minutes given to Stephanie followed by 20 minutes given to Professor Kluge. Stephanie had a 10 minute rebuttal, followed by Professor Kluge's 10 minute rebuttal. Finally there was a shared Q&A period to end things off.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Abortion
• Debate
• UVic
• Stephanie
• Kluge
• Pro-life
• Pro-choice

[msizer]

what a tard. a zygote is not a complete thinking conscious being. the 20week distinction is not arbitrary at all. i don't know whether she's too daft to understand the difference between a grooup of non-conscious human cells and a person or whether sbe simply prefers to ignore it and deliberately misrepresent the opposing stance by

[lifeandphilosophy]

I can know everything about someone's body, but I can not know what it is like to BE that person. => There is something true of someone's body that is not true of them. => a person is distinct from there body. => the question of when a person begins to exist is not a biological question, it is a metaphysical question. At this point we are thrust into agnosticism. In terms of a prudentiality, which is the better choice? Potential genocide or potential unfortunate pregnancies?

[ColdLance]

She doesn't make much in the way of arguements.

To sum up her talk she says it is all subjective, which is true, but then makes no arguement for her side.

[SocialDissimulation]

Utterly wrong. The reasoning is marred by emotions You can't argue these things based simply on emotions.

[faberpei]

I can not get over how strong the pro-life reasoning is. The pro-life arguments were simple and conclusive in nature where as the pro-choice arguments were confusing and arbitrary in nature. It is hard to believe that anyone left that debate without doubting any pro-choice beliefs they had.