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March on ministry of ed., against Dutch budget cuts to education after national student protest

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  • And then they started hitting them 3:00

  • @TheHaIJp Let's try to be creative then. Thanks for the talk and good luck for the future.

  • @godjei Well we agree then that this issue is too important to let political parties (opposition or otherwise) or individuals with a personal intrest highjack it. Now as for the best way to protest I'm really not qualified to answer that. I once protested with 500.000 people and it still dind't work. But my instinct tells me that civil disobedience might be the answer. But with this government you really will have to make them feel it and you have to be smart, consistent and always on topic.

  • @TheHaIJp I think you are right about the fireworks and agree that they were not helping. I also believe however, that everyone will be affected directly or indirectly by these measures and therefore has a right to protest against it. And also, although I disapprove of any violence I must say that the organized protest that was prior to this escalation was very disappointing. It felt like a rally for opposition parties. I wonder what would be a way of protest that would actually have any impact

  • @godjei I don't disagree with the protesters. I disagree with people who aren't even effected by the changes in the Dutch education system coming to mess up an otherwise legitimate protest. As for the fireworks: They were not regular fireworks and this wasn't new years eve. Try standing on one of these when it goes of and your foot will agree with me that an explosive of that strength doesn't care if it's called a bomb or fireworks. But I believe you when you say you believe what you believe....

  • @TheHaIJp I honestly do not believe any bricks were thrown, and there are no bricks thrown in this video. You say these people were mostly people from anti-fa, being there to riot. I think this is not true either, most people standing there were students coming from the protest since the ministry of education is opposite the train station. You can disagree with those people standing there or not, they could have gone straight home ofcourse. But making up facts to support your opinion is lying.

  • @godjei You can literally see someone picking up a brick to throw it in this video. And besides that you may have been there but that doesn't mean you saw everything. I'm sorry to rain on your parade because I know you desperately trying to be part of something big and having a common enemy suits your purpose.

  • @TheHaIJp Well I was there myself and you talk about bombs and bricks of which I can say that is simply not true. You also say these people are not students but antifa activists. Whether someone threw a brick or not is not a matter of opinion, it's simply not true.

  • @godjei Liar? Great way to open a dialog friend. Don't like my opinion much huh? Would you like to add some "fireworks" to your insults to change my viewpoint?

  • @nubbies Yes it did. What's your point?

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