So is atheism a complete world view? No. Of course neither is Christianity. In fact we will find if we look at the world that no one has an identical world view. More evidence a world view is personal and not dictated. As I see it thought this debate is over what is and is not a complete world view and you have not provided any evidence that atheism is a complete world view. Hopefully this clears up my position a little.
You have show that yes atheism could be considered part of a world view, however it is not a world view as world view is defined or atheism is defined. Brock wants to make claims that atheists must borrow from Christianity to complete their world view, however this is not the case. Morality is adopted from society and adjusted to a personal view, just as it is in Christianity. If you need more proof morality is personal I am sure I could provide it.
Now as for your and Brock's claim that atheism is a world view. This view seems to be that atheist should only have one source for there world view, as Christians do, however this is not the case even in Christianity. We know this to be true because not all Christians agree on what is right and what is wrong. So logically they must get their world view from multiple sources. This is the same with atheism.
Back to the original arguement. You say it does not matter if the question to the answer is removed from the clip, it holds the same meaning. By you logic then I should be able to remove all my comments and anyone reading yours should be able to fill in my part of the conversation. This is what you are saying? Content does not change meaning?
Regardless of what you might think neither of us has won one thing. I still think the way I do and you still think the way you do. I have enjoyed our conversation, even tough you seemed to get a little miffed a time or two. I still think Brock is being willfully dishonest to further his agenda, however, I could be wrong. As for a world view, yes I am sure most atheists have a world view, however disbelief in someone else's world view is not a world view, and that is all atheism is.
by the way yr vid sux. dont wasteyrtime repping dork loser . he is wrong
twistanz 2 years ago
Dorkins sux why beleave him? its jsut hi=s opinion.. wats yr point?"
twistanz 2 years ago
Please fell free to go back and answer the last question I asked you.
dataloreforever 2 years ago
Yes well I have seen bother the original movie and Brock's video and I do not thing he did that successfully. It is called an opinion.
I agree it may not have been intentional, but it could have been as well. Only Brock knows for sure.
dataloreforever 2 years ago
Are you claiming that removing content from a argument or debate does not changes the meaning of what is trying to be convey by either side?
Also that if it is done with intent it is not dishonest?
Are you also trying to claim atheism is a complete world view or not?
Are these your arguements? These where your original arguements as I see them and this is why I did not and do not agree with you.
dataloreforever 2 years ago
So is atheism a complete world view? No. Of course neither is Christianity. In fact we will find if we look at the world that no one has an identical world view. More evidence a world view is personal and not dictated. As I see it thought this debate is over what is and is not a complete world view and you have not provided any evidence that atheism is a complete world view. Hopefully this clears up my position a little.
dataloreforever 2 years ago
You have show that yes atheism could be considered part of a world view, however it is not a world view as world view is defined or atheism is defined. Brock wants to make claims that atheists must borrow from Christianity to complete their world view, however this is not the case. Morality is adopted from society and adjusted to a personal view, just as it is in Christianity. If you need more proof morality is personal I am sure I could provide it.
dataloreforever 2 years ago
Now as for your and Brock's claim that atheism is a world view. This view seems to be that atheist should only have one source for there world view, as Christians do, however this is not the case even in Christianity. We know this to be true because not all Christians agree on what is right and what is wrong. So logically they must get their world view from multiple sources. This is the same with atheism.
dataloreforever 2 years ago
Back to the original arguement. You say it does not matter if the question to the answer is removed from the clip, it holds the same meaning. By you logic then I should be able to remove all my comments and anyone reading yours should be able to fill in my part of the conversation. This is what you are saying? Content does not change meaning?
dataloreforever 2 years ago
Regardless of what you might think neither of us has won one thing. I still think the way I do and you still think the way you do. I have enjoyed our conversation, even tough you seemed to get a little miffed a time or two. I still think Brock is being willfully dishonest to further his agenda, however, I could be wrong. As for a world view, yes I am sure most atheists have a world view, however disbelief in someone else's world view is not a world view, and that is all atheism is.
dataloreforever 2 years ago