@vickilalune "Our langage is threatened by the majority of anglophones."
HOW? I could see that before about 1960, but these days? Even the Tories wouldn't DARE roll back bilingualism now, and the worst the Supreme Court ever said was you can't BAN other languages from the cultural and economic life of Quebec -- though you CAN insist on the presence and primacy of French. That's what exists. So how, please, if French "threatened" anymore?
I liked the music & calm tone, it showed the PQ "at work" viewed by the public (the doors open). It sends a message of a government that works, the PQ of the 70s was successful in most goals, but the majority in 1976 didn't feel they're ready for independence.
Btw, my Dad is from France & lived in the US for 40 yrs. (Palm Springs area). He had a few French-Canadian friends who liked the idea of independence in the country, they hoped will grant Quebec a historic need of complete autonomy. +
The point I was getting at is Quebecers had a wish to become sovereign or self-autonomous in their provincial affairs, which is fine. But what if Quebec was seceding tomorrow, how will Canada devoted to democracy & harmony in the provinces handle this result? The French majority of Quebecois voters didn't want secession in 1976, but in 20 years a 2nd vote was a "49% oui-51% non" result, very close to partition. Since then, the Canadian govt. tries harder to respect all of Quebec's own needs. +
Well, I can speak some Spanish and I do live in the southwest (So. Cal.) where bilingualism is becoming more common in everyday life. I live 90 miles from th border & worked in jobs where we had customers who spoke only Spanish was refered to those with better fluency.
If the state governor Schwarzenegger came to Copenhagen, would he be listened to? I don't know, he's an avid supporter of ecological causes. What about Charest? He participated in the summit, yet his ideas didn't get heard? +
So it would be okay to you if someone who is from Mexico told you that he want you to talk to him in spanish? Because that's what you're saying to me... The difference of Quebec is not just regarding the language. It's also based on history, culture and vision. You see, in Copenhague, we were represented by Harper. Well it's not Quebec way to handle climate changes! Jean Charest, our premier (prime minister) was there, but nobody listened to him, because we're not a country.
vicki, I admire French-Canadians for addressing their civil rights, concerns & representation as a part of Canada, but have a different history from the rest of the provinces, due to its' French cultural position. In Quebec, the social mores are usually based on the French, such as the need to learn French to get by in Quebec. It is unfair for anyone impose a language, religion or culture over others, because its' different from the "rest of us". Diversity is one thing, but Quebec is another. +
How can you say something like that? Do you really know what's happening here? We have fundamental differences that doesn't work together. Our langage is threatened by the majority of anglophones. The Supreme Court have every rights in the provinces.
The multiculturalism doesn't work in Quebec. It's in contradiction with our system of integration, that we call here "interculturalism" and it brings problems with the immigrants, who choose to talk english instead of french.
Americans like me knew what was happening there. If Quebec became independent from Canada, it would wrongly demonstrate the failure everywhere of multiculturalism, ethnic diversity & allowance/tolerance of differences among peoples such as language, race & religion of Quebec's French-speaking majority. In the USA even we elected the first African-American president, we still have some conflicts over race, skin color & ethnic origin while we try to become "multiculti" like Canada hopefully. +
C'est ça que le Parti Québécois devrait avoir en 2011!
Maginot 5 months ago
@vickilalune "Our langage is threatened by the majority of anglophones."
HOW? I could see that before about 1960, but these days? Even the Tories wouldn't DARE roll back bilingualism now, and the worst the Supreme Court ever said was you can't BAN other languages from the cultural and economic life of Quebec -- though you CAN insist on the presence and primacy of French. That's what exists. So how, please, if French "threatened" anymore?
PatchesRips 7 months ago
I liked the music & calm tone, it showed the PQ "at work" viewed by the public (the doors open). It sends a message of a government that works, the PQ of the 70s was successful in most goals, but the majority in 1976 didn't feel they're ready for independence.
Btw, my Dad is from France & lived in the US for 40 yrs. (Palm Springs area). He had a few French-Canadian friends who liked the idea of independence in the country, they hoped will grant Quebec a historic need of complete autonomy. +
devulboy1 2 years ago 2
The point I was getting at is Quebecers had a wish to become sovereign or self-autonomous in their provincial affairs, which is fine. But what if Quebec was seceding tomorrow, how will Canada devoted to democracy & harmony in the provinces handle this result? The French majority of Quebecois voters didn't want secession in 1976, but in 20 years a 2nd vote was a "49% oui-51% non" result, very close to partition. Since then, the Canadian govt. tries harder to respect all of Quebec's own needs. +
devulboy1 2 years ago
Well, I can speak some Spanish and I do live in the southwest (So. Cal.) where bilingualism is becoming more common in everyday life. I live 90 miles from th border & worked in jobs where we had customers who spoke only Spanish was refered to those with better fluency.
If the state governor Schwarzenegger came to Copenhagen, would he be listened to? I don't know, he's an avid supporter of ecological causes. What about Charest? He participated in the summit, yet his ideas didn't get heard? +
devulboy1 2 years ago
@devulboy1
So it would be okay to you if someone who is from Mexico told you that he want you to talk to him in spanish? Because that's what you're saying to me... The difference of Quebec is not just regarding the language. It's also based on history, culture and vision. You see, in Copenhague, we were represented by Harper. Well it's not Quebec way to handle climate changes! Jean Charest, our premier (prime minister) was there, but nobody listened to him, because we're not a country.
vickilalune 2 years ago
vicki, I admire French-Canadians for addressing their civil rights, concerns & representation as a part of Canada, but have a different history from the rest of the provinces, due to its' French cultural position. In Quebec, the social mores are usually based on the French, such as the need to learn French to get by in Quebec. It is unfair for anyone impose a language, religion or culture over others, because its' different from the "rest of us". Diversity is one thing, but Quebec is another. +
devulboy1 2 years ago
@devulboy1
How can you say something like that? Do you really know what's happening here? We have fundamental differences that doesn't work together. Our langage is threatened by the majority of anglophones. The Supreme Court have every rights in the provinces.
The multiculturalism doesn't work in Quebec. It's in contradiction with our system of integration, that we call here "interculturalism" and it brings problems with the immigrants, who choose to talk english instead of french.
vickilalune 2 years ago
Americans like me knew what was happening there. If Quebec became independent from Canada, it would wrongly demonstrate the failure everywhere of multiculturalism, ethnic diversity & allowance/tolerance of differences among peoples such as language, race & religion of Quebec's French-speaking majority. In the USA even we elected the first African-American president, we still have some conflicts over race, skin color & ethnic origin while we try to become "multiculti" like Canada hopefully. +
devulboy1 2 years ago
t'es intelligent toi... il est devenu premier ministre avec le PQ....
try0003 2 years ago