Alan Watts: Essential Seminars- Birth, Death, and the Unborn

This is an excerpt pulled from a 6 Cd set of Alan Watts Audio Collection.

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[elchafa]

where is the rest of this talk? this is awesome

[szmako]

"What was your true nature before your father and mother conceived you? Who are you?"

[szmako]

First, I did not watched the clip, sorry for that! I would like to comment on reincarnation. To my way of thinking, there's no evidence that such an event takes place. In addition, this is the eastern version of the western version of"heaven, hell etc." I assume it is our children who bring on the fire of life after we die! We are trying to imagine what it would be like after we die but how can we think of nothingness with our brain which has no experience if nothingness!

[OMFGallusernamesgone]

this edit is very misleading, he's trying to debunk the claim which he presented. Very bad edit, I am the one downvote.

[jonh013]

@holm81 ... Our opinions viewpoints are all relative as we are only our individualizing of the parts of the system. But hey great discussion!

[jonh013]

@holm81 well if you are interested in seeing the viewpoints on reincarnation check out the Bardo Thodol . You might consider it to be a pseudo science, and I cant lie Im skeptical about the validity of it myself, but comprehending the fact that there is and all encompassing cycle of consciousness and energy continually manifesting and deteriorating is all that really needs to be grasped...

[holm81]

@jonh013 ... logically conciousness is more likely to be the "first" between the two, because matter alone without conciousness (waves in vacuum) can't experience itself thus can't exist.

I don't think there's any basis to believe that reincarnation is real. As mentioned before, we are the universe and the universe is constantly multiplying it's own conciousness so in that way we can say reincarnation is real, not otherwise imo.

[holm81]

@jonh013 ...eternity. How does the matter my brain consists of mystyically fly over into a newly impregnated uterus? And futhermore IF that was the case, how on earth does the atoms that my brain consisted of create my own conciousness once again? It would surely just be a new conciousness with reused atoms...

It's totally psuedo science my man.

Also, eastern philosophy saysthat conciousness is the core of the universe - not matter. And there's something to that. It's a duality, but...

[holm81]

@jonh013 Firstly, where did I mention deities? I'm saying it is very propable that a creature, like a human, exists somewhere in the universe that's more evolved than us. Assuming that humans are the most evolved being in the entire (infinite) universe is arrogant. If they exist, nobody "made them" as nobody made us.

Secondly where is your evidence for your claims? It doesn't make sence. If we stick to newtonian mechanics the most likely is that we are dead, then alive then dead again for

[jonh013]

@holm81 transferred, but our energy, the matter that is embodied and thrived on as our consciousness, is what is remanifested and reused