Dennis Trainor Jr: Former teacher wants force used against students, not persuasion

While following around #OccupyDC, I ran into my old friend, Dennis Trainor, (Davis Fleetwood) and we had this enlightening conversation.

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[AlexDerossard]

The man knows he is wrong and not moral, but believe the goal justify the means. He is for the use of force, but his own morals make it difficult to admit it is force. Finally he does, and he knows it sounds bad.

Sometimes wanting to do good makes you be the evil one, very difficult to face this truth.

[12345678tube]

ZERO people die from lack of access to healthcare in Europe.

HOWEVER, plenty die from waiting for that healthcare. What's worse it that we, the US, defend Europe so they can save money and implement socialism.

[kamikazee55]

The constitution is a piece of paper. The social contract is no different than God. An imaginary bullshit fantasy.

So because a bunch of guys signed a piece of paper 200 years ago, I am obligated to support the use of force against me? Someone explain where the government gets its authority.

[38funkster]

@Wisemanifold however the monarchy in England has no power it's the british parlament also england did have a socialist state and the country was broke for years, but then the iron lady was elected because the english people were tire dof being broke under thier socalist economy and returned the buisnesses over to the people thus giving england capitolism and might I just say that it is much better now than it was in 1972

[kmelfina]

@Wisemanifold America is broke in trillions in debt. The last thing we need is NHS since the average American goes all "I don't want to pay more taxes!!!" which is how everything is paid for for anything nationalized. Unless all doctors are willing to volunteer their services for free, NHS is never going to happen.

[Wisemanifold]

Here in Britain. my sons life was saved by our National Health service, We the parents were given no medical bill. This has been going on in this country for since 1948, after the returning heroes from world war two, voted for it! WHAT A TERRIBLE COMMUNIST STATE BRITAIN IS!! (Even though we have a royal family and Queen as head of state) Uh Duh. Think About it! A National Health Service is a good thing. We in Europe aren't defended by the USA! You push us into wars you created & we don't want

[dmoran00]

If you compel them by force to give back, what do they learn? In fact, they learn to resent giving back because it wasn't voluntary, but hijacked. Teach morals and help them see the reward for giving back. If you make it a personal, community-building experience, rather than being forced to give to a faceless government entity that redistributes wealth blindly, they will not only see the reward first hand, they'll want others to join in, creating the community commies could only dream of.

[halflifeproductionz]

we have universal health care here in australia.

[djfmafia1]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[halflifeproductionz]

dennis trainer is a liberal idiot.

[RileyE104]

LOL, so because EYE want to keep MY money, I'm basically raping some random person down the street who could have used it in a "better way" than myself? FUCK THAT!