Seperation Between Church and State

A discussion of were it came from, what it first goals were, how the goal has been altered, and how it is being used today.

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News & Politics

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• Seperation
• Between
• Chruch
• and
• State
• Religious
• Freedom
• Civil
• Right
• Politics

[somethingdiffereable]

Have you ever read the constitution? The first amendment clearly mentions seperation of church and state. It protects religions group including those who don't believe. Iran is a wonderful example of how religion and politics blend real well. Have you ever read history? The Spanish inquistion(s) was a lovely event. Right here in colonial American we had the Salem witch trials. Religion has brought such wonderful things to the world such as most of the wars and burning alive mentally ill people

[Hunterkirk]

@somethingdiffereable Have you ever read the constitution? The First Amendment clearly mentions free practice of religion.

[dethcx22]

I must thank you for this debate, as I rarely get a chance to do so. I have to get some sleep, as it's 4.00am here. :D

[Hunterkirk]

@dethcx22 It was fun... best wishes.

[MsColdCanada]

@medic85573 Less than 100 people were killed in the Salem witch trials. Sure, bad times and chilling example of superstition running amok but not comparable to colonialism.

[medic85573]

@somethingdiffereable Atheists like to mention the witch trials, but did Americans kill more witches, or indians?? Were those indians killed because they wouldn't convert, or was it simply a huge land grab??

You guys point to Iran as an example of religious states, but that's a red herring, we're not pushing for a religious state. We can point to the USSR as an atheist state, how did that work out??

[medic85573]

@somethingdiffereable Have you really looked at the history of war, or are you just spewing out atheist propoganda?? Less than 7% of wars, in recorded history, had a religious cause, and 67% of that 7% were started by the Islamic religion. BTW, that's not a knock on Islam, it's a defense of Christianity. That leaves 93%. 93% of all recorded wars were caused by the secular religion, and yes I call it a religion. When was the last war, caused by Christianity?

[dethcx22]

@Hunterkirk Yes, I probably will although I won't try to change every little detail of government. I would rather try to create an equal life for everyone. (I also hate the new light bulbs, and they are already illegal in my country).

[Hunterkirk]

@dethcx22 Then I suspect you will be continually upset, if you are honest with yourself. :)

I say that because every action of our government is based on a belief of one sort or another and those actions effect everyone in the country. The only solution is a very weak and small central government with only a few laws. For example I like the old bulbs that the government is planning to make illegal in the name of environmentalist beliefs. The new bulbs give me migraines.

[dethcx22]

@Hunterkirk Yes, groups are generalised. Those who believe have every right to, and I would be willing to stand up in court or fight for that freedom.

It's only when it's oppressive or dictating to other's is when I try to intervene. Anyone can believe in anything, I don't mind and have no objections, but I do mind when it effects other's of another belief or of no belief.