Re: Obama Bitter April 13 2008 pt 2

PART 2:Propose that everyone be able to override their legislator on any vote - so we have hybrid direct -representative government. And we be allowed to fire people directly. Make em fear us. - And whats with all the cops. Cops - are basically an investment in closing the barn door after the horse is gone -sane people in prosperous commmunities do not need massive amounts of police.
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Then we have the dillema of

The middle class and poor are taking it from 5 ends right now -

1) Huge Government debt, we were freaked when it hit 1 trillion under reagan - now its hitting - 10 trillion - Whats the interest on 10 Trillion dollars. per person per day. we are getting close

2) Stagnant wages - combined with less free time - leading to worse quaity of life - and more screwed up kids.

3) Outsourcing - the number of white collar jobs leaving this country is staggering.

4) De-Industrialization - meaningless local economies.

5) Illegal immigration: Illegal immigration is a distraction. Every country which has poorer neighbors will attract migrants who will do its bottom tier jobs.

AND WHOSE GIVING IT TO THEM: The Leadership of this country - who is more concerned in feathering their own nests than helping their country. It makes you want to line up against the wall.
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So Obama's positions are all good: But unless we can get people in Government directly accountable with real feedback - WHat if we did -10% tax to random and +10% tax specify.


Sunshine Laws:
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Hillary - your up against a master - dont criticize him unless you mean it - that is you are giving him guidance.



We dont want 1 Barack Obama - we need 10,000 Barak Obamas - a normal guy, who doesnt spin, who doesnt talk down to people, who can see long term, who understands that conservatism and liberalism can be reconciled - because they both want the same thing. As far as I can tell he just wants to do a good job. I loved what Collin Powell said.

PART 1: Gettysburg Address: What would you call Cooper Union, or Philadelphia, or the stump speech itself.

1. Every enlightened person was for globalization
2. Rising middle classes buy our goods and it reduces extremism
3. More trade is less wars - and this was important when we thought the wars were nucleur.
4. - so those were good things - but in our rush - we forgot Reagans use of the russian saying trust but verify.
5. So we cant help the world by buying its goods if we dont export and produce too!
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So Obama does get it.

But what do we do about it?

The basic principle of green economics is internalizing the externalities. A business should not be able to cream the profits and avoid the destructive costs of their product, whether its tobacco, heroin, or coal fired power for factories. Additionally Factory farming is bad for the soil, but determining what the right "adjustments" are is a difficult new branch of economics.


So the Government amasses Green Taxes.

What do we do with the money. I say a reverse sales tax for goods which have side effects which are positive, or normative.

How do you price all this out - well Obama -shows a glimmer again at his Cooper hall speech - talking about outdated regulatory structures - and in the new regulatory structure - that is if you can borrow from the discount Window of the Fed - you should be subject to its regulation.

The way we get all the offsets right is to shut down the corrupt venal game in Washington -

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[aligzanduh]

McCain is not the right person to lead us through a recovery. Obama is better. Forgetting all the Hyperbole. Search for "Cooper Union" and you will see. Being aloof is not an attractive quality - with Bush it was "the guy to have a beer with" That Beer cost us 5 trillion dollars. With Obama we might say - if he had a party - he might not invite me - thats our emotions. But the guy has a highly trained and scientific mind.

[aligzanduh]

Obama is the first person I have seen in the last 100 years who if elected President would have done it entirely on his own initiative - with the exception perhaps of Nixon!

[onedead]

Please explain to the rest of us Barack's policies, without using the words "Change" or "Hope!"

Don't tell us reduced taxes, he's a Dem isn't gonna happen. BTY, how can you suport a guy who refuses to take part in the opening prayer of the Senate (yet claims to be Christian), refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance, and refuses to wear the Senatorial lapel pin?!

Amazing.....

[aligzanduh]

You know how serious I am about reforming the Federal Governments efficiency ? I think Obama should make McCain his VP. (And Vice versa)

[aligzanduh]

Ive changed my mind about McCain - the clincher -was watching CIA official Larry Johnson describing how dangerous the "walk in the market" at Shorja was for american troops. The next day 21 of those market employees were murdered - and McCain said "Thats just life" - we should have guarded that market - his remarks are just to hard for me to believe in him as a decent person - its harsh - but it really shocked me how callous his remark was

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[debtconsolidationcan]

I am delighted, cool!

[vandebtreduction]

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[noella777]

I'm an african-american and i've always voted democrat, but I can't this time...there's something wrong this guy. In my opinion he's a borderline sociopath. He lies to get votes, and always has excuses for his questionable close relationships. He struts around like the anointed one, and talks of how he's the great change the country needs. He's too slick for my taste. TO ALL: BE CAREFUL! DON'T VOTE ON YOUR EMOTIONS, VOTE LOGICALLY.

[kurtrussell2624]

I still wish hillary was running for Pres. I did like Obama but unlike so many people here I am not star stuck either. I do have a problem with some of the issues that Obama has flipped-flopped on since January of 08. I understand the man has to say what is needed to get elected but it sounds like the same political machine rolling again.

[nimrodclothing]

maybe if you weren't sucking from the sweet teet of fox news channel you'd be able to wrap your tiny little mind around the reality that taxes aren't as simple as we don't raise taxes and they do... ha ha. Name the last republican president that didn't raise taxes or inflate our national debt? (waiting) admit it your dadies dady hates women, gays, and minorities, and you were told too many horror stories to dare question them. The country I love is too good for scum like you!!! Good Day!

[DJPrimeMinister]

agreed....