@stegokitty " Shawn hare" You are one sick dude.a heretic and,like a true calvinist you like spreading lies and other malicious things.
I will go and write something on my channel page explaining all the things that you have done.You are free to try to defend yourself,i have not blocked you....
Your view declares she was brutally raped then left half-dead for HIS Good Pleasure to glorify himself! Then when the 6 year old grows up Resenting God and HATING Him & all-things Christianity, YOU would telll her that she was Fashioned for the Lake of Fire "Before having done anything eiither good or bad" to make known the riches of His glory for vesses of Mercy, such as yourself!
Oh How BEAUTIFUL are the feet of those Calvinists who preach the good news!!!
@apollos6640 - So are you saying that God DOES "twiddle his thumbs, or close his eyes, or shut his ears ...while the 6 year-old girls are kidnapped, & raped continuesly for months by pdeophiles ... while they scream & beg for their lives until they're dead"?
If so, which view of God is evil?
The one that takes the Bible seriously, that God is sovereign over all things, even wicked acts, for His own glory?
OR the god who is powerless against and/or has no purpose at all in human suffering?
@stegokitty Shawn, your comments are always such a blessing, my friend. You are in my opinion, one of the most solid christians on YT. I am still hoping we might get together and work on the "project" you mentioned a while back. Skype me if you get a chance. God bless.
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones - I see, so when defending the Trinity (or do you?), you never use the common verses for doing so, right? Your assessment of Romans 9 as not having to do with election only displays your grand PURPOSEFUL ignorance, seeing as it most blatantly says so. But even this isn't the end all be al of election. The Bible is FILLED with God's predestinating love for some sinners, & reprobation of others. Your friendliness with Pelagius is rather sad. I can't help you.
@stegokitty I am not impressed with Calvinists copping out everytime reciting Romans 9. Especially as the context in which Paul speaks here - towards the Jews - has nothing whatsoever to do with he calvinist dogma of election. You have refuted absolutely nothing. You are copping out ad hoc style, like the WCOF. You may also want to read Pelagius' commentary on Romans. That is, if you dare to think outside the box and actually have an interest in what the man actually believed and said.
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones - I haven't side-stepped anything. Your objection is noted & refuted: "One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?" (Rom 9:19-21)
@stegokitty You are yet again side-stepping the issue: does God WILL moral evil? And if so, how can any man be held accountable for his actions, being as they are, predestined from before the foundation of the world. You are saying Joseph's brothers sinned... yet they were unable to do otherwise, as your god decreed that they should sin, and therefore, WILL sin. Which ultimately leads to the end result of calvinism: that god himself is the author of sin.
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones - Your first sentence is nonsensical, when dealing with humans because I cannot USE sin for good. God can (and does!). God WILLED that Joseph save the lives of the Egyptians and of his own family, and by doing this God WILLED (without morally approving) the wicked acts of Joseph's brothers. As he said "You MEANT it for evil, but God MEANT it for good". God wasn't just running around cleaning up after Joe's brothers. It was part of the plan. And they were guilty of sin.
@tgillspy2 stegokitty may be gay............
tgillspy2 1 month ago
@stegokitty " Shawn hare" You are one sick dude.a heretic and,like a true calvinist you like spreading lies and other malicious things.
I will go and write something on my channel page explaining all the things that you have done.You are free to try to defend yourself,i have not blocked you....
tgillspy2 1 month ago
@stegokitty So are you saying..."
Your view declares she was brutally raped then left half-dead for HIS Good Pleasure to glorify himself! Then when the 6 year old grows up Resenting God and HATING Him & all-things Christianity, YOU would telll her that she was Fashioned for the Lake of Fire "Before having done anything eiither good or bad" to make known the riches of His glory for vesses of Mercy, such as yourself!
Oh How BEAUTIFUL are the feet of those Calvinists who preach the good news!!!
apollos6640 6 months ago
@apollos6640 - So are you saying that God DOES "twiddle his thumbs, or close his eyes, or shut his ears ...while the 6 year-old girls are kidnapped, & raped continuesly for months by pdeophiles ... while they scream & beg for their lives until they're dead"?
If so, which view of God is evil?
The one that takes the Bible seriously, that God is sovereign over all things, even wicked acts, for His own glory?
OR the god who is powerless against and/or has no purpose at all in human suffering?
stegokitty 6 months ago
@stegokitty Shawn, your comments are always such a blessing, my friend. You are in my opinion, one of the most solid christians on YT. I am still hoping we might get together and work on the "project" you mentioned a while back. Skype me if you get a chance. God bless.
Haukman66 6 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones - I see, so when defending the Trinity (or do you?), you never use the common verses for doing so, right? Your assessment of Romans 9 as not having to do with election only displays your grand PURPOSEFUL ignorance, seeing as it most blatantly says so. But even this isn't the end all be al of election. The Bible is FILLED with God's predestinating love for some sinners, & reprobation of others. Your friendliness with Pelagius is rather sad. I can't help you.
stegokitty 6 months ago
@stegokitty I am not impressed with Calvinists copping out everytime reciting Romans 9. Especially as the context in which Paul speaks here - towards the Jews - has nothing whatsoever to do with he calvinist dogma of election. You have refuted absolutely nothing. You are copping out ad hoc style, like the WCOF. You may also want to read Pelagius' commentary on Romans. That is, if you dare to think outside the box and actually have an interest in what the man actually believed and said.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 6 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones - I haven't side-stepped anything. Your objection is noted & refuted: "One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?" (Rom 9:19-21)
stegokitty 6 months ago
@stegokitty You are yet again side-stepping the issue: does God WILL moral evil? And if so, how can any man be held accountable for his actions, being as they are, predestined from before the foundation of the world. You are saying Joseph's brothers sinned... yet they were unable to do otherwise, as your god decreed that they should sin, and therefore, WILL sin. Which ultimately leads to the end result of calvinism: that god himself is the author of sin.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 6 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones - Your first sentence is nonsensical, when dealing with humans because I cannot USE sin for good. God can (and does!). God WILLED that Joseph save the lives of the Egyptians and of his own family, and by doing this God WILLED (without morally approving) the wicked acts of Joseph's brothers. As he said "You MEANT it for evil, but God MEANT it for good". God wasn't just running around cleaning up after Joe's brothers. It was part of the plan. And they were guilty of sin.
stegokitty 6 months ago