Modern Art, part 2 of 2

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• Ayn
• Rand
• Objectivism
• education
• Leonard
• Peikoff
• Brandon
• Cropper
• art
• modern
• abstract
• pollock
• kandinsky
• painting

[rutgerjimmyjayjay]

There is no classical or modern art, there is only art. Although I dislike postmodernism in social life in all its senseless nihilm. I do think it can be used in art, movies and literature. However, there can be high (classical) and low (modern) art. I love both David Lynch and Roy lichtenstein on one hand, and Tarkovsky and Rembrandt on the other.

[cropperb]

Lichtenstein is pretentious nonsense.

This is not an issue of a continuum, with all art at some point on a line. Rather, it is an issue of exclusion: modern "art" is excluded from an objective, rational definition of "art".

[TakeAleft]

Again... SO... what "old" art is then a visualisation of reality? That painting in your room is ALSO just an interpretation of reality... there is no objectivity!!!

And please... the avantgarde (exept for the italian futurism) was against fascism... find me a contempurary art book that agrees with you!!! (please answer all, thx)

[cropperb]

"find me a contempurary art book that agrees with you!!!"

This statement shows how irrational you are. How does showing a source that agrees validate my argument?

You are a stark-raving mad subjectivist. And a militant skeptic.

[Kurturmis]

as a traditional artist i find this extreamly refreashing to hear. Modern art should not be held in such high regard. Anyone interested in real art or want to read a traditional contempoary artist views google art renewal centre.

[prillvex]

Peikoff:

"Non-objective art flouts the rules of the human mind."

Ayn Rand:

"Until a conceptual vocabulary is discovered and defined, no objectively valid criterion of esthetic judgment is possible in the field of music...we have to treat musical tastes or preferences as a subjective matter...Music cannot tell a story, it cannot deal with concretes, it cannot convey a specific existential phenomenon."

Which means that music flouts the rules of the human mind.

[Victorprossart1]

Behold the knob in all his glory.

[eventide925]

Objectivism and subjectivism are parts of the whole human experience. Knowing where they both fit and how they work for one is a well rounded outlook...

[TheDogRibs]

You need to lighten up and enjoy yourself more.

[courtabeth]

Peevish,amateurish,jaded.Remin­ds me of that first year grad student in every class that can't hear anything but the three or four books he's read from cover to cover.

[nurabsol]

if "art" doesn't need to be understood? how does one determine it to be "art"? How can "art" raise the viewer's consciousness if they can't understand it? Just as he says in the video, modern "art" is not something one can draw anything from. It is not even intended, for the most part, to mean anything. So how can that, which is the denial of meaning, raise consciousness?

[bpope123]

I might say that Modern art might be more of a technique, rather then "art". You can employ a Pollock technique when rendering your art, but it isn't art all by itself. You might even make the smears and splatter a focal point, but, I guess, it should be part of a larger reality, fantasy, what have you. I personally think art should raise the views consciousness, but it certainly doesn't need to be understood, or even liked by everyone.

[russelsparadox]

You are an idiot. Did he say "Men die, women do not?" And that Aristotle isn't dead? (It still wouldn't follow from that that he is a woman...)

Jesus, go back to school.