Rob Bell Defends Himself and His Church Mars Hill pt.1
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Rob refers to "God, Jesus and the power of the resurrection"....no, it's God, Jesus and the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit. This is what I think is missing from Rob Bell's life because Jesus said he'd send the Holy Spirit to us to guide us into all truth. The Holy Spirit brings to life God's word in our spirit to understand and apply it. Come Holy Spirit, come!
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How do you hold God above Scripture? Is Rob saying that he has a clearer view of God than scripture? The Mormons believed the same thing which is why the Bible has been diminished in whenever it interferes with their teachings. Rob is doing the same thing, but the worst thing about it is his denial to be clear on what he actually believes. He doesn't take a stand for his real interpretation because he knows he'll lose the evangelical book buyers.
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@jwaustinmunguy I always take heart in scriptural references to 'light' which represents the heavens and their infinity and also requires both Quantum Science and Relativity to work in the way that the heavens behave if you watch carefully
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@jessymoadeeb When I first went to AA, I knew in minutes that I belonged. Others shared my thoughts and experiences like nowhere else.
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@jessymoadeeb More than thirty seven years ago I joined AA and quickly realized there was no value in debating god with anyone there. To do so could hurt someone else's sobriety and that would be throwing back all the kindness I received there from others.
Find your own higher power and grow strong with it. Mine is a bit complicated as it follows physics and all of the beautiful results of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics but won't come in to focus until the Standard Model is validated or not.
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@holdsworthdesign Most of it is hogwash. That's funny because the participants were pork-abhorring shepherds.
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You say that seminarians read the scriptures in the original languages. I know some do but I doubt that most make the effort. I doubt that TV preachers or that insipid dead guy they play on the AM radio in St. John's and Halifax every Sunday do any critical thought
Scary that few preachers bother to learn mathematics, physics or quantum theory. They dismiss it all and claim the world is 6,000 years old. Most scientists are familiar with major religions.
God isn't all that believable.
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And here I thought the Bible Society had it translated into hundreds of different languages. Please don't insult the Qu'ran in a conversation with me. I'm not ever going there. One thing that Muslims do that I respect, they read their Holy Book in the original language. Christians read it in any old version they got from their particular twist of X-tianity. I have ancestors who were Plymouth Brethren, even when they got to Toronto.
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@jwaustinmunguy Ancient Greek and Ancient Hebrew are required classes in seminary. Pastors do research the original languages.
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What Rob says makes so much sense to me. A few weeks ago I wanted to take my own life. I couldn't live it the way I was living it any longer. I picked up a AA book and began reading Bill's story. I came to the part where Bill had given over his life to God because his life had become unmanageable. Immediately I knew that I was to do the same thing. And in that same moment God entered my heart, mind and body in a way I had never experienced in church or anywhere else. He has begun a work in me.
jessymoadeeb 5 months ago 7
So funny that Mark Driscoll tweeted today:
If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself. - Augustine
But here Rob Bell says that it's good to take some but not everything is important to learn...
madturki 4 months ago 6