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Richard Dawkins' own words:
"In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication. Some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is at bottom no design, no purpose, no evil, no good; nothing but pitiless indifference."
— Richard Dawkins (River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life)
When you are an atheist everything is up for grabs, there are no "off limits" as all things become permissible. It is repugnant, false and every atheist knows it Rom. 1:18-32 2:14-16.
Atheism reduces morality to an absurdity of pitiless indifference where design, goodness, love ect. are ousted out of the paradigm and chalked up to being a pitiless indifferent reflection.
By saying that the universe is founded on basic principles that know nothing of morality, Dawkin's was making no statement about the actions of people and their personal choices. You don't understand his words.
unifiedreality 1 day ago
@Sgtrev97 Then my man you are going against your own scripture that has "Thou shall not steal" in it. Or if I am wrong point me to the verse in the Bible that states that certain stealing is ok.
scrap222666 3 days ago
@scrap222666 Yes, you are correct. The same creator who gave us the law of time, gravity, etc etc also gave us moral law. You hit the nail on the head. But, if I use your reason (social construct) as to why it is wrong. It is still wrong, because society also thinks it is wrong to steal. Society does not think it is wrong to take away from a murderer a gun, knife or any other weapon. Neither does God. If man has a sense of justice, how much higher is God's?
Sgtrev97 3 days ago
@Sgtrev97 No problem and yes I know. Although I think your reasoning to what makes it wrong is different to mine. You probably think an eternal God is the reason, I see it as a social construct. Under certain conditions even stealing would be good for example I would definitely steal a murderers gun,knife or any other weapon if I knew he or she used it to hurt people and I would get away without him or her noticing it. God on the other hand would sentence me to hell for that.
scrap222666 3 days ago
@scrap222666 Sorry about the typo, steal. And you know it is wrong to steal.
Sgtrev97 3 days ago
@Sgtrev97 Why is it wrong to steel?
scrap222666 3 days ago
because religion is dangerous to science. richard dawkins is a scientist
xenoman4421 5 days ago
@alexander74511 Your argument has NO weight. Is it wrong to murder? Yes! Is it wrong to rape? Yes! Is it wrong to steel? Yes? Does society have murderers, rapists & thieves? Yes! Just because people choose to live immoraly doesn't make the morals relative.
Sgtrev97 1 week ago
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT) so not all moral are universal,
alexander74511 1 week ago
@Sgtrev97 Moral are as absolute as the rules that govern our survival are, everything that doesn't threaten our survival is subject to consideration, in the same bible to you defend is moral that men kill other men for many reasons that would chill out spins today for example If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT) so not all moral are universal,
alexander74511 1 week ago