@telescope3 Actually, it is not almost all great players lower in the Downswing. The truth is ever great player in history has lower in the downswing. So you are right on with this statement my friend.
@telescope3 Hey , Tele. I'm a huge fan of Hogan and have Five Lessons sitting right beside me. Your comment confused me a little bit, you didn't mean that he uses the same plane up and down did you? Because Hogan himself specifically says that the down plane is far shallower due to the hips rotating.
@emncaity Shoulder-schmoulder. Notice that the shaft of Hogan's club is PERFECTLY on plane both halfway back AND halfway down. This is done largely by losing height a bit on both the back-and-downswings. Check the top of Hogans head; approx. -2" each way! Tigers' called out all the time for this, but the fact is, almost ALL the great players do this, as it partially counters the shafts 'climb-up' as it travels from it's address plane up to around shoulder-level during the backswing.
...then on top of that, let the rough grow and make it mean something to hit a fairway, and we'll see how that "these guys are good" campaign goes. There'll be about 50 guys who can break par, and that'll be it. When the U.S. Open was played at Torrey, both Tiger and Rocco were barely over 50% on fairways hit--AT THE U.S. OPEN--and tied for first. Fifty years ago with the rough like it was, you hit 50%, you're gonna shoot 85, I don't care what your name is.
True--esp. if you make everybody play musclebacks or straight blades and play the same ball today, Hogan--especially the 41-year-old Hogan--is gonna kill 'em. Lots of people know how he disparaged putting in his last few years, but in fact--as Snead says, and Snead would know--he was one of the best putters in the world from 10 feet in when he was at his peak. That's the thing that separates Woods from the pack when he's winning.
@telescope3 Actually, it is not almost all great players lower in the Downswing. The truth is ever great player in history has lower in the downswing. So you are right on with this statement my friend.
premolar7 9 hours ago
Seems to me that the second clip is simply not a full a swing so it appears under the plane from behind.
donmcd71 1 month ago
@telescope3 Hey , Tele. I'm a huge fan of Hogan and have Five Lessons sitting right beside me. Your comment confused me a little bit, you didn't mean that he uses the same plane up and down did you? Because Hogan himself specifically says that the down plane is far shallower due to the hips rotating.
Adam54545454 1 month ago
Hogan today would not had a swing coach,
Unlike Tiger and Phil. I mean Tiger is trying to change his swing again? Hogan only used one swing...HIS
lonestargun 8 months ago
Let's all focus on shoulder plane instead of how to hit with lag, because amateurs have obviously mastered that part.
bunkerputt 1 year ago 2
@emncaity Shoulder-schmoulder. Notice that the shaft of Hogan's club is PERFECTLY on plane both halfway back AND halfway down. This is done largely by losing height a bit on both the back-and-downswings. Check the top of Hogans head; approx. -2" each way! Tigers' called out all the time for this, but the fact is, almost ALL the great players do this, as it partially counters the shafts 'climb-up' as it travels from it's address plane up to around shoulder-level during the backswing.
telescope3 1 year ago
@Muddo14
...then on top of that, let the rough grow and make it mean something to hit a fairway, and we'll see how that "these guys are good" campaign goes. There'll be about 50 guys who can break par, and that'll be it. When the U.S. Open was played at Torrey, both Tiger and Rocco were barely over 50% on fairways hit--AT THE U.S. OPEN--and tied for first. Fifty years ago with the rough like it was, you hit 50%, you're gonna shoot 85, I don't care what your name is.
emncaity 1 year ago
@Muddo14
True--esp. if you make everybody play musclebacks or straight blades and play the same ball today, Hogan--especially the 41-year-old Hogan--is gonna kill 'em. Lots of people know how he disparaged putting in his last few years, but in fact--as Snead says, and Snead would know--he was one of the best putters in the world from 10 feet in when he was at his peak. That's the thing that separates Woods from the pack when he's winning.
emncaity 1 year ago
@elnocho3
Why, thank yuhverramussh.
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity Best answer
elnocho3 1 year ago