Jesus Has Left the Building, Part 4 (Celsus, Lucian, and Thallus)

The fourth episode in a series examining the historicity of Jesus Christ.

"Thallus: An Analysis" by Richard Carrier: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/thallus.html

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Jesus
• Christ
• historicity
• historical
• person
• man
• figure
• character
• myth
• imaginary
• existed
• existence
• real
• fake
• skepticism
• criticism
• bible
• extra-biblical
• non-biblical
• Josephus
• Tacitus
• Suetonius
• accounts
• evidence

[alvaboyfilms]

If having very few written references to Christ outside the bible within the first 50 yrs of his crucifixion qualifies Christ as a myth than having absolutely no written references eluding to Christ as a myth until 1840 (Bruno Bauer) over 1800 yrs after the crucifixion, by its own reasoning, would render the Christ myth a NO possibility. Internet sensationalist and many modern Jesus Mythologist fail miserably to bring anything new to the table.

[TaylorX04]

@alvaboyfilms Are you kidding me? You're gonna post this same shit on every video in the series? To anyone interested, see my evisceration of this nonsense in the comments on the first video.

[2011iam4god]

THE END OF THE WORLD IS ALMOST HERE !HOLY GOD WILL BRING JUDGMENT DAY ON MAY 21,2011

[TaylorX04]

@2011iam4god The world didn't end in 1988, it didn't end in 2000, and I will be commenting on your page laughing at you when it doesn't end on May 21st, 2011.

[DarkEmergence]

@TaylorX04 Well, did you do it?

[TaylorX04]

@DarkEmergence No, but thanks for reminding me. She approves her comments though. :-p

[TaylorX04]

@8blkcat Great idea. It always amuses me how Muslims proudly declare that the Qur'an has no evidence of change... that's because you DESTROYED all the variant copies, you morons! Lol.

[jimk47]

@2011iam4god  dec 17 2011 and still here. did i miss the bus?

[alachabre]

@2011iam4god Crap, I missed it. When's the next one?

[HimesInu]

@2011iam4god And yet, here we are, June 6th, 2011. Looks like we win this one. And we'll win the October fight and the December 21st, 2012 fight, which, ironically, isn't even a Christian prophecy.

[HimesInu]

I was confused about the Criterion of Embarrassment. Would the early Christians use it or not. I'm not sure if it's because I'm tired, but it sounded like you were giving reasons as to why they would and wouldn't.

[EdM021]

I would put Mara Bar-Serapion between 138 CE and 200 CE because he remarks that the Jews were utterly impoverished and disposessed from their territory [never to return until 1948 CE]. Also like Lucian he doesn't mention Jesus' NAME. Which means there were disagreements over what his name actually was. Iesous? Issu? Yehoshua? Yeshu? Christus? Chrestus? With these six names you have fourteen differnt possible combinations!