Lecture - Dr Peter Williams - New Evidences the Gospels were Based on Eyewitness Accounts
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This is a very powerful argument and very creative. He knows what hes talking about! Thanks for uploading!
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@TestAmenT12341 you are more than welcome. the real credit goes to Mark Lanier who invites a variety of lecturers to come speak at his new Theological Library. I am thankful for his support of my sharing them on the YouTube format.
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@LifeIsSoAwesome I do not disagree. However, arguments showing the strength of the Christian position can be used to impact the heart. That is how my girlfriend came to Christ from Atheism--logical arguments, like the ones used by Dr. Williams, given by people obeying 1 Peter 3:15, which commands us to have evidence for our hope.
I have told Dr. Williams' argument to a many agnostic and Atheistic friends, who have been intrigued by it.
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Most of it, until my ears started to bleed from the stupid. Then I had to turn it off.
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Thank you
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@jerico641 Did you even bother to watch the video?
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@jerico641 FORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol... ; )
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I think I'll try to slice it into the woods...here we go again with the bible quotations; did it ever occur to you that simply because something is written in a book, doesn't automatically mean it's true? And what you write there at the end is pretty telling too; you assumed I could easily kick all this nonsense to the curb, because, I believe, somewhere inside you know it's all fantasy. Oh, and I love the part of the verse describing "invisible" qualities; that's great...
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Romans 1:10
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
You can kick this to the curb as well. We simply put it on a tee for you, where you whack it is up to you my friend.
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What evidence? I haven't seen any my whole life (for ANY gods).
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Yeah, Jesus was right, alright. No one in his right mind would believe that the dead rise up from graves (except in zombie movies). So, it's free will, then, huh? He's there, but he just allows us to do as we please. The invisible and the nonexistent bear a striking resemblance to each other. And you think that these evangelicals are providing answers?? If a person doesn't believe, and your god won't show him, what good are answers from people going to do?
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Fascinating information, some of which I'd not heard or thought about before!
This is an excellent presentation, but in my opinion it only reinforces one's trust in the Gospels if they already believe, rather than being a convincing argument intended for unbelievers. As a Christian, I believe that "faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God", and not through argument, but I worry that others might watch this and think "man, those liberals won't be able to answer THIS!"
LifeIsSoAwesome 3 months ago 3
@LifeIsSoAwesome Furthermore at 51:20-53 Peter says, "Can I prove it? No I can't!" There is an answer to all of this. Someone can push back and say. "there is a weak point to your argument here, here and here." "I am not going to deny that."
fleetwd1 3 months ago
@fleetwd1 That's exactly it! It wasn't meant to be irrefutable proof, but people can still misunderstand it as irrefutable proof, which could be dangerous.
It really is a good presentation, the whole way through.
LifeIsSoAwesome 3 months ago
@LifeIsSoAwesome I stand by what I wrote. You implied Peter was somehow thinking he was giving irrefutable evidence to unbelievers and that the message would only confirm what believers already believe and would not convince unbelievers.
God can and will use whatever means he wishes to reach whomever He wills.
He is not bound by your agenda.
fleetwd1 3 months ago
@fleetwd1 Any such implication was my mistake. I agree with everything you've said up until this point, and I apologize for any ambiguity or unclear statement that suggested that I thought that Peter thought he was giving irrefutable evidence to unbelievers. I have no agenda, nor do I want to limit God's sovereignty in saving whom he wills.
Again, sorry.
LifeIsSoAwesome 3 months ago
@LifeIsSoAwesome Accepted. I thought you were much older or I would not have been as critical myself. Peace
fleetwd1 3 months ago